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Old 04-10-2012, 08:39 PM
 
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- Whose Who Among You? -

Continued complaints arise
in examining Titles of Religious Leaders.
For such entilements of authority.

Even Jesus' came into question of
whose authority He taught by.

But, then Jesus Himself did question who others say
He, The Son 0f Man is. - Matt.16:13

It seems odd that we'd have so many trust issues
with who Religious Leaders, say they are.

But then fully trust who these same people, say we are?

Seems almost laughable at the moment.
But it's exactly what (christians) continue to do.

Then, wonder why it is
they can still have control over us....
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Old 12-30-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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- Jesus didn't believe He was Incarnate.


But He believed John the Baptist was Incarnate
because Jesus said John was Elijah who was to come. - Matt.11:14
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Old 12-31-2015, 05:50 AM
 
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Still from John 8: 58...... Jesus said ``Truly, Truly , I say to you , before Abraham was I am` . so they picked up stones to throw at him , but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple`` ........... See Abraham lived two thousand years before Jesus ..................Then there are ministers who are anointed of Christ and are lead by the spirit of God by the authority of Jesus ............., and there are ministers are lead by themselves and are under the authority of the church government were they work and may not even be saved to Jesus , or even believe in Jesus
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Old 12-31-2015, 06:29 AM
 
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Still from John 8: 58...... Jesus said ``Truly, Truly , I say to you , before Abraham was I am` . so they picked up stones to throw at him , but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple`` ........... See Abraham lived two thousand years before Jesus ..................Then there are ministers who are anointed of Christ and are lead by the spirit of God by the authority of Jesus ............., and there are ministers are lead by themselves and are under the authority of the church government were they work and may not even be saved to Jesus , or even believe in Jesus
There is no evidence that Jesus was anymore than a mere human, who said some sensible things from time to time, if reported correctly.
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Old 12-31-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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Jesus was is and always will be God, and furthermore is the creator of the universe and everything in it. He is a part of the triune Godhead, 3 beings who share the same nature and all are equally God. Jesus had a plan and a program for this earth and everything on it before He spoke it into existence. He had a book inspired by the Holy Spirit with a progressive revelation from beginning in the Garden to the end times of Revelation. Nothing is a surprise to Jesus as He knew all things from the beginning. His program is proceeding to the minute this very day.........nothing out of place in His world. It's all going to happen just like the book says and it will be even more spectacular than our finite minds today can handle. For those during the earthly ministry when Jesus was present it was enough to know that HE WAS THE SON OF GOD.......deity with a capitol D or the Kingdom Gospel. Today Paul was given the gospel of grace and Jesus is known to those in the body of Christ as Savior and not King, although He truly is one.
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Old 12-31-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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There is no evidence that Jesus was anymore than a mere human, who said some sensible things from time to time, if reported correctly.
Except his own testimony, and that of his apostles....
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Old 01-01-2016, 09:12 AM
 
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Still from John 8: 58...... Jesus said ``Truly, Truly , I say to you , before Abraham was I am` . so they picked up stones to throw at him , but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple`` ........... See Abraham lived two thousand years before Jesus ..................Then there are ministers who are anointed of Christ and are lead by the spirit of God by the authority of Jesus ............., and there are ministers are lead by themselves and are under the authority of the church government were they work and may not even be saved to Jesus , or even believe in Jesus

- "The Word Became Flesh"


- Jesus is "The Word Of God"


So of course God's Word was before Abraham.
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Old 01-01-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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Many today would say He is an ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE who would deny people FOOD, HOUSING, HEALTH CARE, OPPORTUNITY and that He is a task master who would send the least of us to make brick without straw, walk the desert without shoes and for go education in favor of supporting the capitalistic system.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:53 PM
 
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Many today would say He is an ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE who would deny people FOOD, HOUSING, HEALTH CARE, OPPORTUNITY and that He is a task master who would send the least of us to make brick without straw, walk the desert without shoes and for go education in favor of supporting the capitalistic system.




capitalism does not work.


because it needs growth--- prices double-200 years
Prices double-100 years
prices double- 50 years
prices double- 25 years
Prices double- 12 years
Prices double-6 years-- we are here
NEXT= disaster


Its already out of control-- the ultra wealthy are sucking every dime they can get out of the economys of the world-- pure greed.




The 20 richest in the USA are worth more than the bottom 150 million-- it will only get worse.
Gods kingdom is mankinds only remaining hope.

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Old 01-01-2016, 04:50 PM
 
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- Whose Who Among You? -

Continued complaints arise
in examining Titles of Religious Leaders.
For such entilements of authority.

Even Jesus' came into question of
whose authority He taught by.

But, then Jesus Himself did question who others say
He, The Son 0f Man is. - Matt.16:13

It seems odd that we'd have so many trust issues
with who Religious Leaders, say they are.

But then fully trust who these same people, say we are?

Seems almost laughable at the moment.
But it's exactly what (christians) continue to do.

Then, wonder why it is
they can still have control over us....
well, when one sticks to only the truth they will say things like: "you are not a true (insert a team)"
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