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Old 04-11-2012, 04:24 PM
 
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Friendly behavior without Christian segregation = Failure-----2 Cor. 6.

Peaceful behavior without bible rebuking Christians in
error== Failure------James 5:20.

Positive behavior without tribulation == Failure ----Luke 6:26.

Confident behavior without caution == Failure------1 Cor. 8:2 &
John 5:39.

People person without enemies == Failure ---Matthew 10:34-37.

Philosophy without absolute truth == Failure----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Clean heart without Christian attire === Failure----1 Peter 3:3.

Ambition without Christian contentment===Failure----1 Timothy 6.

Religion without church rules===Failure----1 Cor. 14:34-35.

Marriage without Christian marriage===Failure----Romans 7:2-3.

Grace theology without the conditional
guidelines==Failure---Romans 6:1.

Gifts without church government===Failure---ALL of 1 Cor. 14.

Accomplishments without moderation===Failure---Hebrews 4.

Anti-extreme legalism without a bible perfection
goal===Failure------Mathew 5:17-20.

Studying without knowing who the expert
is==Failure---1 John 2:27.

Staying out of people's business without knowing a 100% bible
believer==Failure----1 Thess. 5:12.

Meetings without doctrine unity===Failure---Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6.

Intuition without the wisdom of God==Failure----Isaiah 64:6.

Making your own destiny without God==Failure---Jeremiah 10:23.

Hearing voices without hearing the bible==Failure---Romans 10:17.

A follow Jesus person without assembly with
believers === Failure----John 17:21.

A testimony speaker not a 100% bible
believer== Failure------John 8:31.

A reinvent the wheel person without publishing
rules===Failure----Revelation 22:18-19.

A bless anybody person==Failure----Gal. 1:8-9 and Rev. 22:15 and
2 Thess. 3:10 and John 17:9 and Matthew 7:6.

The 10 commandments without the least of the commandments
ever==Failure-----Mathew 5:17-20 and John 5:39.

Believing in the 2 greatest commandments without baptism
pool talk===Failure-----John 3:5.

Miracles without doctrine on repentance
correct===Failure----Romans 11:29.

Self wise people are hell bound people no matter how
nice they may be----John 5:39 and Jeremiah 10:23.

Holiness is only found in the wisdom of God----Isaiah 64:6 and
Acts 17:28 and Psalms 119:105.

Either we endorse all the bible or we're not saved----2 Timothy 3:16.

Either all the bible is our decision maker with everything going on in our
life or we guessing we saved----Matthew 4:4 and Psalms 119:105.

Truth don't make you guess the right thing to do---John 8:32.

Philosophy has all the guessing in what's right----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Wit only good in the wisdom of man not the wisdom of God--1 John 2:27.

The wisdom of God is learned before obeyed---John 5:39.

Obedience through philosophy is a filthy rag----Isaiah 64:6.

Truth learned to be obedient is the wisdom of God----John 8:32 and John 5:39.

Again the goal is scaring away the 90% bible believers so the body of Christ can actually be established
the corrrect way with 100% bible believers----John 17:21 and Matthew 5:6 and Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6.

100% bible believers hungering for 100% bible believers to know is where it's at today-----Matthew 5:6.

While Christians never perfect pursuing bible perfection is the goal of every Christian----Phillipians 3:12-14.

Christianity is not a closet religion to yourself while you let the world see holiness being peaceful only---John 5:39 and Psalms 133:1.

If peaceful Sally can't be real with baptism pool talk it's time for her to stop saying she a Christian----John 3:5.

Total peace is not the Christian gospel-----James 5:20 and Matthew 10:34-37 and Luke 6:26.

If nonjudgmental Hank can't be real with bible rebuking Christians when necessary it's time for him to stop saying he a Christian----James 5:20.

The bible truth not a fit shoe message for everybody-----Luke 6:26 and 2 Cor. 4:3.

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Old 04-12-2012, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Friendly behavior without Christian segregation = Failure-----2 Cor. 6.

Peaceful behavior without bible rebuking Christians in
error== Failure------James 5:20.

Positive behavior without tribulation == Failure ----Luke 6:26.

Confident behavior without caution == Failure------1 Cor. 8:2 &
John 5:39.

People person without enemies == Failure ---Matthew 10:34-37.

Philosophy without absolute truth == Failure----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Clean heart without Christian attire === Failure----1 Peter 3:3.

Ambition without Christian contentment===Failure----1 Timothy 6.

Religion without church rules===Failure----1 Cor. 14:34-35.

Marriage without Christian marriage===Failure----Romans 7:2-3.

Grace theology without the conditional
guidelines==Failure---Romans 6:1.

Gifts without church government===Failure---ALL of 1 Cor. 14.

Accomplishments without moderation===Failure---Hebrews 4.

Anti-extreme legalism without a bible perfection
goal===Failure------Mathew 5:17-20.

Studying without knowing who the expert
is==Failure---1 John 2:27.

Staying out of people's business without knowing a 100% bible
believer==Failure----1 Thess. 5:12.

Meetings without doctrine unity===Failure---Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6.

Intuition without the wisdom of God==Failure----Isaiah 64:6.

Making your own destiny without God==Failure---Jeremiah 10:23.

Hearing voices without hearing the bible==Failure---Romans 10:17.

A follow Jesus person without assembly with
believers === Failure----John 17:21.

A testimony speaker not a 100% bible
believer== Failure------John 8:31.

A reinvent the wheel person without publishing
rules===Failure----Revelation 22:18-19.

A bless anybody person==Failure----Gal. 1:8-9 and Rev. 22:15 and
2 Thess. 3:10 and John 17:9 and Matthew 7:6.

The 10 commandments without the least of the commandments
ever==Failure-----Mathew 5:17-20 and John 5:39.

Believing in the 2 greatest commandments without baptism
pool talk===Failure-----John 3:5.

Miracles without doctrine on repentance
correct===Failure----Romans 11:29.

Self wise people are hell bound people no matter how
nice they may be----John 5:39 and Jeremiah 10:23.

Holiness is only found in the wisdom of God----Isaiah 64:6 and
Acts 17:28 and Psalms 119:105.

Either we endorse all the bible or we're not saved----2 Timothy 3:16.

Either all the bible is our decision maker with everything going on in our
life or we guessing we saved----Matthew 4:4 and Psalms 119:105.

Truth don't make you guess the right thing to do---John 8:32.

Philosophy has all the guessing in what's right----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Wit only good in the wisdom of man not the wisdom of God--1 John 2:27.

The wisdom of God is learned before obeyed---John 5:39.

Obedience through philosophy is a filthy rag----Isaiah 64:6.

Truth learned to be obedient is the wisdom of God----John 8:32 and John 5:39.

Again the goal is scaring away the 90% bible believers so the body of Christ can actually be established
the corrrect way with 100% bible believers----John 17:21 and Matthew 5:6 and Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6.

100% bible believers hungering for 100% bible believers to know is where it's at today-----Matthew 5:6.

While Christians never perfect pursuing bible perfection is the goal of every Christian----Phillipians 3:12-14.

Christianity is not a closet religion to yourself while you let the world see holiness being peaceful only---John 5:39 and Psalms 133:1.

If peaceful Sally can't be real with baptism pool talk it's time for her to stop saying she a Christian----John 3:5.

Total peace is not the Christian gospel-----James 5:20 and Matthew 10:34-37 and Luke 6:26.

If nonjudgmental Hank can't be real with bible rebuking Christians when necessary it's time for him to stop saying he a Christian----James 5:20.

The bible truth not a fit shoe message for everybody-----Luke 6:26 and 2 Cor. 4:3.
Tony,
the religious leaders of Jesus' day knew the scriptures very, very, very well. --And yet they crucified the Spirit of Truth.

Without the Spirit of God to guide us, the Bible will only lead to condemnation and death.

Aisi, of course..

Blessings Tony,
brian
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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Tony,
the religious leaders of Jesus' day knew the scriptures very, very, very well. --And yet they crucified the Spirit of Truth.

Without the Spirit of God to guide us, the Bible will only lead to condemnation and death.

Aisi, of course..

Blessings Tony,
brian
Ironically TonyX3 is being spiritually self-wise in making the Bible an idol to be worshiped and revered instead of Jesus Christ THE Word of God.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:10 PM
 
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Default Why Was Jesus Killed ?

It's cause Jesus said he was the Father and not just a prophet.
It's cause Jesus said he was the Father and not the Son of God only.
It's cause they didn't believe the prophecy of Jesus in the old testament.

The problem is 90% bible believers saying they believers--John 8:31.


No different today.


What good is a peaceful person if somebody believe 90% of the bible
only ? Matthew 5:17-20.

They only gain a friend in the flesh and lose their soul to the
devil----John 8:32.

In the case with the bible ancient people, why do all the ordinances
and ceremonial stuff if you don't believe the prophecy and Godhead
of Jesus ? John 8:24 .

What good is it to tell people your off of addictions to beer and cigarettes but you have a bible problem with a baptism pool to be
saved ? Jn. 3:5.

Time for 100% bible believers to make themselves known to the world so the body of Christ can really be formed like never before!! Matthew 5:6
and Ephesians 4:5.

10% of the bible don't belong in a closet if we saved----2 Tim. 3:16.

Either we make all the current bible doctrine a salvation issue or we playing saved:


Baptism pool talk---John 3:5
Christian attire---1 Peter 3:3
Church leader rules----1 Cor. 14:34-35 and 1 Timothy 2
Church government rules---ALL of 1 Cor. 14.
Correct teaching on repentance---Romans 11:29.
Christian marriage---Romans 7:2-3.
Christian parties----1 Peter 3:3.
Wisdom of God for the soul of man---Isaiah 64:6 and Jeremiah 10:23.
Practical application of God in all the bible all the time---Luke 4:4.
Mastering the Holy Spirit of the bible doing the teaching---1 John 2:27.
Burying the self wisdom we been born with for God---Acts 17:28.

Listening to God all the time in the bible with our current challenges we're
facing all the time---Romans 10:17 and Psalms 119:105.

Letting all the bible be our roadmap for spiritual assistance all the
time-----John 14:26 and 1 John 2:27 and Psalms 119:105.

Crediting all the bible for spiritual victory not talent of man helping you out with the bible---Acts 17:28 and Psalms 8:4 and 1 John 2:27 and
Psalms 119:105.

Coming to a realization that saints have bible revelation power only not common people asking for help from a big shot----2 Cor. 4:3 and
1 John 2:27 and James 1:5 and 2 Timothy 2:15 and Titus 3:10.

Understanding that God is in control despite the counterfeit bible editors messing with the bible---2 Cor. 4:3 and Rev. 22:18-19 and John 8:32
and Ephesians 4:14 and Galations 1:8-9.

Truth is always known in all the bible for a child of God despite the tactics of the counterfeiters to bring potential confusion---1 Cor. 14:33 and
John 8:32 and 2 Peter 1:20-21 and Colossians 2:8.

Again scaring away 90% bible believers is how you attract 100% bible believers so the body of Christ is really in operation--Matthew 5:6.

Unequal yoking just to have a buddy not the book---2 Cor. 6.

Unequal yoking just to be called peaceful not the book---Luke 6:26.















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Tony,
the religious leaders of Jesus' day knew the scriptures very, very, very well. --And yet they crucified the Spirit of Truth.

Without the Spirit of God to guide us, the Bible will only lead to condemnation and death.

Aisi, of course..

Blessings Tony,
brian
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Originally Posted by tonytonytony View Post
It's cause Jesus said he was the Father and not just a prophet.
It's cause Jesus said he was the Father and not the Son of God only.
It's cause they didn't believe the prophecy of Jesus in the old testament.

The problem is 90% bible believers saying they believers--John 8:31.


No different today.


What good is a peaceful person if somebody believe 90% of the bible
only ? Matthew 5:17-20.

They only gain a friend in the flesh and lose their soul to the
devil----John 8:32.

In the case with the bible ancient people, why do all the ordinances
and ceremonial stuff if you don't believe the prophecy and Godhead
of Jesus ? John 8:24 .

What good is it to tell people your off of addictions to beer and cigarettes but you have a bible problem with a baptism pool to be
saved ? Jn. 3:5.

Time for 100% bible believers to make themselves known to the world so the body of Christ can really be formed like never before!! Matthew 5:6
and Ephesians 4:5.

10% of the bible don't belong in a closet if we saved----2 Tim. 3:16.

Either we make all the current bible doctrine a salvation issue or we playing saved:


Baptism pool talk---John 3:5
Christian attire---1 Peter 3:3
Church leader rules----1 Cor. 14:34-35 and 1 Timothy 2
Church government rules---ALL of 1 Cor. 14.
Correct teaching on repentance---Romans 11:29.
Christian marriage---Romans 7:2-3.
Christian parties----1 Peter 3:3.
Wisdom of God for the soul of man---Isaiah 64:6 and Jeremiah 10:23.
Practical application of God in all the bible all the time---Luke 4:4.
Mastering the Holy Spirit of the bible doing the teaching---1 John 2:27.
Burying the self wisdom we been born with for God---Acts 17:28.

Listening to God all the time in the bible with our current challenges we're
facing all the time---Romans 10:17 and Psalms 119:105.

Letting all the bible be our roadmap for spiritual assistance all the
time-----John 14:26 and 1 John 2:27 and Psalms 119:105.

Crediting all the bible for spiritual victory not talent of man helping you out with the bible---Acts 17:28 and Psalms 8:4 and 1 John 2:27 and
Psalms 119:105.

Coming to a realization that saints have bible revelation power only not common people asking for help from a big shot----2 Cor. 4:3 and
1 John 2:27 and James 1:5 and 2 Timothy 2:15 and Titus 3:10.

Understanding that God is in control despite the counterfeit bible editors messing with the bible---2 Cor. 4:3 and Rev. 22:18-19 and John 8:32
and Ephesians 4:14 and Galations 1:8-9.

Truth is always known in all the bible for a child of God despite the tactics of the counterfeiters to bring potential confusion---1 Cor. 14:33 and
John 8:32 and 2 Peter 1:20-21 and Colossians 2:8.

Again scaring away 90% bible believers is how you attract 100% bible believers so the body of Christ is really in operation--Matthew 5:6.

Unequal yoking just to have a buddy not the book---2 Cor. 6.

Unequal yoking just to be called peaceful not the book---Luke 6:26.
Yes, what you say here is in line with my post, too. It's precisely because He said things that were not written in their OT Bibles, that they killed Him. He was a "heretic" according to their books. (They also called Him a sinner, a deceiver and a devil. Typically the same things that many religious people today say about non-Christians.)

They were hooked on the written letter, and couldn't receive the Living Spirit.

In addition, they were also covetous, and feared losing their power.


Blessings,
brian
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:18 AM
 
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It's cause Jesus said he was the Father and not just a prophet.
It's cause Jesus said he was the Father and not the Son of God only.
It's cause they didn't believe the prophecy of Jesus in the old testament.

.
Actually he never said he was the Father, so the foundation of your rant is built on sand. It was the Father in Him. And the reason they rejected what they saw in Him as the Father, was the god they believed in was not a god of Love, grace and mercy. They did not have a clue that the True and Living God was actually like that, so is it any wonder they rejected him.

Matthew 12:7 If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent.
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Old 04-13-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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So, in a nutshell, being a good person, helping others and trying to make the world a better place only counts if you're a Christian?

That's a holier than thou attitude if I ever heard one, not to mention sanctimonious and self serving.

Sad and shameful.
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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Actually he never said he was the Father, so the foundation of your rant is built on sand. It was the Father in Him. And the reason they rejected what they saw in Him as the Father, was the god they believed in was not a god of Love, grace and mercy. They did not have a clue that the True and Living God was actually like that, so is it any wonder they rejected him.

Matthew 12:7 If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent.
Amen, pcamps!!

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So, in a nutshell, being a good person, helping others and trying to make the world a better place only counts if you're a Christian?

That's a holier than thou attitude if I ever heard one, not to mention sanctimonious and self serving.

Sad and shameful.
Indeed!!
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Actually he never said he was the Father, so the foundation of your rant is built on sand. It was the Father in Him. And the reason they rejected what they saw in Him as the Father, was the god they believed in was not a god of Love, grace and mercy. They did not have a clue that the True and Living God was actually like that, so is it any wonder they rejected him.

Matthew 12:7 If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent.

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