Self Wisdom Is Not How The Body Of Christ Is Established ?? (Gospel, Lutheran)

[tonytonytony]

Peaceful people that hate too much bible you don't fit in with the children of God----John 8:31.

Your not even a member of the body of Christ at all----John 8:31.

All the bible puts all his people together---2 Timothy 3:16 and
John 8:32.

This not a political matter over Lutheran vs. Pentecostal
interpretation of any issue in the bible---2 Peter 1:20-21.

Absolute truth is the doctrine of all the bible----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Call some of the bible technical if you may but all the bible is highly esteemed by God----Matthew 5:17-20.

The same God that said don't judge said also to bible rebuke Christians if the shoe actually fits----James 5:20.

The same God that said to be peaceful is the same God that warned about being too praised by men---Luke 6:26.

The same God that said not to offend people is the same God that said his people will be hated by all kind of people---Matthew 10:34-37.

Whatever the bible issue it's 2 sides of the fence to look at a bible issue all the time---2 Timothy 2:15.

Grace don't mean no bible perfection goals---Ephesians 3:12-14.

Charity don't mean no tough love for bums---2 Thess. 3:10.

Confidence don't mean no caution to have---1 Cor. 8:2.

Nonjudgment don't mean no bible rebuke on people---James 5:20.

Counsel don't mean your not the expert in God---1 John 2:27.

Gifts don't mean your automatically saved----Romans 11:29.

Testimonies don't mean your burying your wisdom for God---Isaiah 64:6.

Trust don't mean you allow God to take over every encounter in your life with any bible verse appropriate---Luke 4:4 and Psalms 119:105.

Born again only mean something getting out the flesh on what God saying all the time---Romans 10:17 and Jeremiah 10:23.

Only when a person realizes God talks primarily through the bible can one really proclaim Jesus as Lord of their life---1 Cor. 14:33 and John 14:26
and Psalms 119:105 and Acts 17:28 and Romans 10:17.

Again the goal is to attract 100% bible believers not opinions by 90% bible believers thinking Christianity is entirely about making friends and getting along only---Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6 and Titus 3:10 and Matt. 7:6 and
Psalms 133:1.

[MysticPhD]

Tony, tony, tony! Bibleanity is NOT Christianity. You are teaching a false Gospel and idolizing the Bible as your God. Not a good plan. Christ is THE Word of God . . . not your Bible.

[Dogknox]

Originally Posted by tonytonytony

Peaceful people that hate too much bible you don't fit in with the children of God----John 8:31.

Your not even a member of the body of Christ at all----John 8:31.

All the bible puts all his people together---2 Timothy 3:16 and
John 8:32.

This not a political matter over Lutheran vs. Pentecostal
interpretation of any issue in the bible---2 Peter 1:20-21.

Absolute truth is the doctrine of all the bible----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Call some of the bible technical if you may but all the bible is highly esteemed by God----Matthew 5:17-20.

The same God that said don't judge said also to bible rebuke Christians if the shoe actually fits----James 5:20.

The same God that said to be peaceful is the same God that warned about being too praised by men---Luke 6:26.

The same God that said not to offend people is the same God that said his people will be hated by all kind of people---Matthew 10:34-37.

Whatever the bible issue it's 2 sides of the fence to look at a bible issue all the time---2 Timothy 2:15.

Grace don't mean no bible perfection goals---Ephesians 3:12-14.

Charity don't mean no tough love for bums---2 Thess. 3:10.

Confidence don't mean no caution to have---1 Cor. 8:2.

Nonjudgment don't mean no bible rebuke on people---James 5:20.

Counsel don't mean your not the expert in God---1 John 2:27.

Gifts don't mean your automatically saved----Romans 11:29.

Testimonies don't mean your burying your wisdom for God---Isaiah 64:6.

Trust don't mean you allow God to take over every encounter in your life with any bible verse appropriate---Luke 4:4 and Psalms 119:105.

Born again only mean something getting out the flesh on what God saying all the time---Romans 10:17 and Jeremiah 10:23.

Only when a person realizes God talks primarily through the bible can one really proclaim Jesus as Lord of their life---1 Cor. 14:33 and John 14:26
and Psalms 119:105 and Acts 17:28 and Romans 10:17.

Again the goal is to attract 100% bible believers not opinions by 90% bible believers thinking Christianity is entirely about making friends and getting along only---Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6 and Titus 3:10 and Matt. 7:6 and
Psalms 133:1.

tonytonytony Good to meet you..
The Bible is a Book Of The Church! The Church came before the Bible!
The Canon was closed 400 years after Jesus!

The Church uses the Bible to Teach, Rebuke, Train and to Correct!
2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.

The Bible is USEFUL it is NOT alone used!

The Bible tells us..(You included) Man was saved by LOVE!
1 John 4:8
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

The Bible tells us...(You included) God COMMANDS; "You MUST LOVE"!
John 13:34
“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

The Bible tells us...(You included) if you "LOVE" you will have "Eternal life"!
Luke 10:25
On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”
27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”
28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”

tonytonytony All must think "God LIED" if they deny "LOVE Saves"!

ALL..
tonytonytony All men are made in the IMAGE of God.. "God is LOVE"!
All men can LOVE; Hindu, Muslim, Jew, Greek, Chinese.. YES even the "DUTCH" can love! No one needs to read the bible to have Eternal Life!!

Dogknox

[Dogknox]

tonytonytony You there?!!!

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by tonytonytony

Peaceful people that hate too much bible you don't fit in with the children of God----John 8:31.

Your not even a member of the body of Christ at all----John 8:31.

All the bible puts all his people together---2 Timothy 3:16 and
John 8:32.

This not a political matter over Lutheran vs. Pentecostal
interpretation of any issue in the bible---2 Peter 1:20-21.

Absolute truth is the doctrine of all the bible----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Call some of the bible technical if you may but all the bible is highly esteemed by God----Matthew 5:17-20.

The same God that said don't judge said also to bible rebuke Christians if the shoe actually fits----James 5:20.

The same God that said to be peaceful is the same God that warned about being too praised by men---Luke 6:26.

The same God that said not to offend people is the same God that said his people will be hated by all kind of people---Matthew 10:34-37.

Whatever the bible issue it's 2 sides of the fence to look at a bible issue all the time---2 Timothy 2:15.

Grace don't mean no bible perfection goals---Ephesians 3:12-14.

Charity don't mean no tough love for bums---2 Thess. 3:10.

Confidence don't mean no caution to have---1 Cor. 8:2.

Nonjudgment don't mean no bible rebuke on people---James 5:20.

Counsel don't mean your not the expert in God---1 John 2:27.

Gifts don't mean your automatically saved----Romans 11:29.

Testimonies don't mean your burying your wisdom for God---Isaiah 64:6.

Trust don't mean you allow God to take over every encounter in your life with any bible verse appropriate---Luke 4:4 and Psalms 119:105.

Born again only mean something getting out the flesh on what God saying all the time---Romans 10:17 and Jeremiah 10:23.

Only when a person realizes God talks primarily through the bible can one really proclaim Jesus as Lord of their life---1 Cor. 14:33 and John 14:26
and Psalms 119:105 and Acts 17:28 and Romans 10:17.

Again the goal is to attract 100% bible believers not opinions by 90% bible believers thinking Christianity is entirely about making friends and getting along only---Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6 and Titus 3:10 and Matt. 7:6 and
Psalms 133:1.

But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.


This Wisdom ^^^^^^^^^^^ sounds nothing like the bible wisdom you have.Where is anything remotely like this in what you think is wisdom ?.

[Heartsong]

"In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so,
I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you." John 14:2


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[littlemagician]

there is a message in the bible that must be read with open eyes, with a pure heart.
with the conditonless mind. the truth is there, but it is also everywhere..it in our beingness.

its who we are from the beginning. one doesnt need to learn more the be who we are.. we are already that. perhaps if we emptied completley what we have been taught and start from the beginning and learn things for ourselves by being fully present in each moment that life brings( instead of living inthe past or worrying.planning for the future) we will see the magic that exists all around us, and the want to be right will no longer be there becuase we will be so present in each moment that we will have no time to fight over right and wrong and we will see that all experiences are part of our growth,whether we see them as wrong or right.. jsut being present in this moment life will reveal its mysteries to us and we will no lack anything.

the bible has truth but it is not the only thing that has it. it points to somthing that we must experience within to see its purness. but its not the only thing that points to this truth which is life..

LIFE is right here in this moment.. no wherelse can you find it.. not in the past or the future but right here right now. its up to us to open our eyes andhearts and live it. non partial , non predjudice to any beliefs that we may have attached to through our conditioning.

[Dogknox]

Originally Posted by littlemagician

there is a message in the bible that must be read with open eyes, with a pure heart.
with the conditonless mind. the truth is there, but it is also everywhere..it in our beingness.

its who we are from the beginning. one doesnt need to learn more the be who we are.. we are already that. perhaps if we emptied completley what we have been taught and start from the beginning and learn things for ourselves by being fully present in each moment that life brings( instead of living inthe past or worrying.planning for the future) we will see the magic that exists all around us, and the want to be right will no longer be there becuase we will be so present in each moment that we will have no time to fight over right and wrong and we will see that all experiences are part of our growth,whether we see them as wrong or right.. jsut being present in this moment life will reveal its mysteries to us and we will no lack anything.

the bible has truth but it is not the only thing that has it. it points to somthing that we must experience within to see its purness. but its not the only thing that points to this truth which is life..

LIFE is right here in this moment.. no wherelse can you find it.. not in the past or the future but right here right now. its up to us to open our eyes andhearts and live it. non partial , non predjudice to any beliefs that we may have attached to through our conditioning.

littlemagicianI hope all is well with you..
I have to ask..."The Bible" has TRUTH. (as you say) Logic says; "There can only be ONE truth"!

So.. The QUESTION: What "TRUTH" have you found that is NOT in the bible?!

I am not asking for scientific TRUTH because the Bible is not a book of science!
I am asking about "What TRUTH, POINTS you to God" better then the scriptures?!
The Bible is a love story between Man & God! IF..

littlemagician If you trusted what you read in the scriptures it should make you "Fall in Love with God"!

After all, we are not going to get out of here without God!
Should not your whole goal in life be; "Getting into heaven"!

Dogknox

[hljc]

Jesus said in Matthew 25: 25-27......``.I thank you O Father Lord of Heaven and earth because you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have reveled them to babes......Even so Father for so it seems good in your sight....All things are delivered to me of my Father, but the Father neither knows any man the Father, save but the Son, and he whom so ever the Son will reveal him```..........See those who are prudent and wise in the law only and fail to be also prudent in the spirit , will not be whole in their belief system and may come up short or lack Jesus Holy Spirit or His callings....

[Dogknox]

Originally Posted by hljc

Jesus said in Matthew 25: 25-27......``.I thank you O Father Lord of Heaven and earth because you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have reveled them to babes......Even so Father for so it seems good in your sight....All things are delivered to me of my Father, but the Father neither knows any man the Father, save but the Son, and he whom so ever the Son will reveal him```..........See those who are prudent and wise in the law only and fail to be also prudent in the spirit , will not be whole in their belief system and may come up short or lack Jesus Holy Spirit or His callings....

hljc I hope all is well..
I reply: "Jesus is the JUDGE!"
It will be Jesus that judges you, not the Father! "LAST JUDGEMENT"!
Until Jesus came along man could say to God.. "It is tough down here, (on earth) how can you judge?!"

The Sheep and the Goats

Matthew 25:31
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat,.........

hljc If you "GIVE" then you are NOT Working!
You do not "GIVE" a gift then demand payment for your GIFT as it is being unwrapped!!

GIVING is Not WORKING your way into heaven! GIVING to Jesus is small acts of LOVE!

>>>>Love saves<<<<

Harden NOT your hearts!!

The Sheep go to heaven.. they are JUDGED by Jesus, as saved because they >>"LOVE"<<!!!!
The Goats have Faith ALONE.. they give NOTHING!!
They are sent to the Lake of fire, with Satan!
Demons and Satan CAN'T love!

Dogknox