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Almost every thread on the Christian forum seems to immediately get side-tracked to a UR discussion, so we might as well go directly there. The doctrine of universal reconciliation (UR) essentially says: Trusting in Jesus Christ as one’s personal savior from the just ‘death wages’ of sin is just one of countless ways that one can have Salvation and eternal life. …. Another (equally good way (according to UR), is to ignore, reject or not trust in Jesus Christ and -- instead trust in anything or anyone … “since all will ultimately be saved to eternal life anyway.”
Perhaps, the ‘false Christ’s’ of scripture that will come in the Last Days are those claiming to be Christ (David Koresh, Sun Moon, etc.). But, tperhaps the false Christ is the non-scriptural ‘Christ.’ who is worshipped as the real Christ … a “Christ” who is not really an essential Savior, but, one who is a ‘nice-to-have religious accessory’ ....to whom no one really has any personal accountability.
Almost every thread on the Christian forum seems to immediately get side-tracked to a UR discussion, so we might as well go directly there. The doctrine of universal reconciliation (UR) essentially says: Trusting in Jesus Christ as one’s personal savior from the just ‘death wages’ of sin is just one of countless ways that one can have Salvation and eternal life. …. Another (equally good way (according to UR), is to ignore, reject or not trust in Jesus Christ and -- instead trust in anything or anyone … “since all will ultimately be saved to eternal life anyway.”
Perhaps, the ‘false Christ’s’ of scripture that will come in the Last Days are those claiming to be Christ (David Koresh, Sun Moon, etc.). But, tperhaps the false Christ is the non-scriptural ‘Christ.’ who is worshipped as the real Christ … a “Christ” who is not really an essential Savior, but, one who is a ‘nice-to-have religious accessory’ ....to whom no one really has any personal accountability.
Ever seen a fireman demand that someone believe IN him before he saves someone from a burning building? "Saviors" don't need to be believed IN to be saviors. They go about the business of saving without worrying about whether or not someone is acknowledging them or not.
Almost every thread on the Christian forum seems to immediately get side-tracked to a UR discussion, so we might as well go directly there. The doctrine of universal reconciliation (UR) essentially says: Trusting in Jesus Christ as one’s personal savior from the just ‘death wages’ of sin is just one of countless ways that one can have Salvation and eternal life. …. Another (equally good way (according to UR), is to ignore, reject or not trust in Jesus Christ and -- instead trust in anything or anyone … “since all will ultimately be saved to eternal life anyway.”
Perhaps, the ‘false Christ’s’ of scripture that will come in the Last Days are those claiming to be Christ (David Koresh, Sun Moon, etc.). But, tperhaps the false Christ is the non-scriptural ‘Christ.’ who is worshipped as the real Christ … a “Christ” who is not really an essential Savior, but, one who is a ‘nice-to-have religious accessory’ ....to whom no one really has any personal accountability.
Amen!
The UR doctrine actually looks to be central in uniting the World's Religions together promising "World Peace". If Christ's death ultimately will save all people, than all religions can be gathered into one umbrella religion - that all religions worship God in their own way. The Vatican has already embraced Judaism and Islam in their package as the "saved".
The Protestant Catholic ecumenical movement looks to bring in the Apostatizing Protestants that have embraced the UR position. 'Love everyone' (interpret as Religious "Tolerance"). Everyone's saved.
It will make this possible
That Cross can never be included however in their World Religion.
Matthew 10:34-35
King James Version (KJV)
34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Why?
John 14:6
King James Version (KJV)
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Rejecting Jesus as the only way for Salvation is rejecting our Creator and Redeemer.
1 Thessalonians 5
1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
I think it's fair to suggest those that don't see this jaugernaut coming are walking in darkness due to 1 Thes 5:4. True believers will not be caught off guard.
Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
And he sure has!
The stage is being set for the infamous Biblical end-time World Leader - the pseudo Messiah.
An umbrella World Religion is also suggested in the Scripture.
Daniel 9:27
King James Version (KJV)
27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
The sacrifices look to be re-initiated upon the confirming of the covenant in a temple that is currently under plans for construction. Considering most of the World Leaders have Masonic affiliation, it won't take long to build the temple they so greatly venerate (they believe Hiram Abiff built Solomon's Temple).
Every Religion worships in their own way, at least until the "midst of the week" where he sets himself up to be worshiped (2 Thess 2) (Rev 13) (Matt 24) etc.
All the pieces seem to be in place now, and the UR doctrine is spreading effectively so "Christians" slip right into it.
There is also evidence the umbrella World Religion will be based on Pagan elements. A lot of propoganda coming out that Christianity is "sun" worship. Look for Sun worship to be a central theme, as according to what has come across my path.
Almost every thread on the Christian forum seems to immediately get side-tracked to a UR discussion, so we might as well go directly there. The doctrine of universal reconciliation (UR) essentially says: Trusting in Jesus Christ as one’s personal savior from the just ‘death wages’ of sin is just one of countless ways that one can have Salvation and eternal life. …. Another (equally good way (according to UR), is to ignore, reject or not trust in Jesus Christ and -- instead trust in anything or anyone … “since all will ultimately be saved to eternal life anyway.”
Perhaps, the ‘false Christ’s’ of scripture that will come in the Last Days are those claiming to be Christ (David Koresh, Sun Moon, etc.). But, tperhaps the false Christ is the non-scriptural ‘Christ.’ who is worshipped as the real Christ … a “Christ” who is not really an essential Savior, but, one who is a ‘nice-to-have religious accessory’ ....to whom no one really has any personal accountability.
The UR doctrine actually looks to be central in uniting the World's Religions together promising "World Peace". If Christ's death ultimately will save all people, than all religions can be gathered into one umbrella religion - that all religions worship God in their own way. The Vatican has already embraced Judaism and Islam in their package as the "saved".
The Protestant Catholic ecumenical movement looks to bring in the Apostatizing Protestants that have embraced the UR position. 'Love everyone' (interpret as Religious "Tolerance"). Everyone's saved.
It will make this possible
That Cross can never be included however in their World Religion.
Matthew 10:34-35
King James Version (KJV)
34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Why?
John 14:6
King James Version (KJV)
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Rejecting Jesus as the only way for Salvation is rejecting our Creator and Redeemer.
1 Thessalonians 5
1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
I think it's fair to suggest those that don't see this jaugernaut coming are walking in darkness due to 1 Thes 5:4. True believers will not be caught off guard.
Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
And he sure has!
The stage is being set for the infamous Biblical end-time World Leader - the pseudo Messiah.
An umbrella World Religion is also suggested in the Scripture.
Daniel 9:27
King James Version (KJV)
27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
The sacrifices look to be re-initiated upon the confirming of the covenant in a temple that is currently under plans for construction. Considering most of the World Leaders have Masonic affiliation, it won't take long to build the temple they so greatly venerate (they believe Hiram Abiff built Solomon's Temple).
Every Religion worships in their own way, at least until the "midst of the week" where he sets himself up to be worshiped (2 Thess 2) (Rev 13) (Matt 24) etc.
All the pieces seem to be in place now, and the UR doctrine is spreading effectively so "Christians" slip right into it.
There is also evidence the umbrella World Religion will be based on Pagan elements. A lot of propoganda coming out that Christianity is "sun" worship. Look for Sun worship to be a central theme, as according to what has come across my path.
UR (Universal Reconciliation) is not about physical world peace, it is about Christ being the saviour of the world. All being saved through Christ
What is flesh is flesh and what is spirit is spirit.
Ever seen a fireman demand that someone believe IN him before he saves someone from a burning building? "Saviors" don't need to be believed IN to be saviors. They go about the business of saving without worrying about whether or not someone is acknowledging them or not.
UR (Universal Reconciliation) is not about physical world peace, it is about Christ being the saviour of the world. All being saved through Christ
What is flesh is flesh and what is spirit is spirit.
Resurrection is from death.
It is indeed providing the roots of the final Christian apostasy into the "70th week of Daniel." I guess we'll have to wait and see. It's been happening for years now, so it won't be a surprise.
Ever seen a fireman demand that someone believe IN him before he saves someone from a burning building? "Saviors" don't need to be believed IN to be saviors. They go about the business of saving without worrying about whether or not someone is acknowledging them or not.
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Originally Posted by ahigherway
Exactly!
And still they don't get it..
Blessings Pleroo!
brian
Right, Pleroo. Has anyone ever called the lifeguard who saves an unconscious victim a "pool accessory?"
You're right, Brian. They don't get it. It's amazing that people who don't understand UR keep starting threads with false information about it.
Right, Pleroo. Has anyone ever called the lifeguard who saves an unconscious victim a "pool accessory?"
You're right, Brian. They don't get it. It's amazing that people who don't understand UR keep starting threads with false information about it.
It's bad enough they refuse to listen but what gets me is when they bear false witness. They claim we say "Who needs Christ? Everyone's saved eventually. Go ahead and sin, it doesn't matter."
I would not accept UR if scripture didn't back it up but it does.
ET'rs, look back and find one post where we said Christ doesn't matter.
He is the Savior of all mankind, not just 10%. Our God is bigger than your God.
Ever seen a fireman demand that someone believe IN him before he saves someone from a burning building? "Saviors" don't need to be believed IN to be saviors. They go about the business of saving without worrying about whether or not someone is acknowledging them or not.
God seeks a 'love-based' relationship ... which cannot simply be 'imposed' and still be love. In order for us to choose to love God, we must also be free to reject God's offer of love and life. --- God continues to reach out to all during this lifetime ... even those who reject His love.
God is not 'obliged' to save anyone or give anyone eternal life. By His amazing grace, He offers Salvation and Life to all who will receive it. He does not 'demand' that anyone accept these things, but, neither does God simply inject these things into all ... making His offer and our free will meaningless.
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