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Old 09-18-2007, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Hot-Houston Texas
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Originally Posted by songinthewind7 View Post
Have sex anytime you want.
I don't believe God or anybody else really cares.
(I'm not talking adultery, but IMO, people don't need to be cheating on each other.)
I believe God cares about everything we do.

Last edited by I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA; 09-18-2007 at 09:56 AM.. Reason: left out word
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:26 AM
 
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If a person thinks sexual gratification is going to be a problem (and I dont know how they would know these things before hand) dont get involved with him (or her) in the first place. Problem solved.
I can agree with this, to a point. When a couple is contemplating marriage, all matters should be discussed openly and any issues should be resolved prior to heading down the aisle. It is better to determine if two people are incompatible before they even say "I do" than after. This goes for sex, having/not having children, money matters, etc.

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Power Surge, I underlined the text I'll comment on.

We know whats wrong or whats right, and Im not being biased here..

No Power Surge, somebody who doesn't know the truth God gave us, also doesn't know what's wrong and what's right, but God only knows right and wrong, and fornication is simply wrong, and there's no excuse for it. When someone stands infront of God to be judged, explaining it to the Lord just won't spare them from judgement. You can test drive a car before buying it, but it doesn't work that way when it comes to marriage.

..that your wife/husband cant fulfill you sexual needs??

Basing marriage solely on "sexual desires" and how well the significant other can please them, is asking for disaster. There are many legitimate reasons for 2 people to get married, and the need for sex should not be at the top of the list. There's nothing wrong with sensuality between 2 married people, but it's only one of the elements for both people to prove their committment to each other.
I can agree with this

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I thought your entire post on this was very good, mams, but I particularly wanted to highlight this part. I think this is possibly a real problem for the church, not just the world in general, because we have become so saturated with the world's thinking that pre-marital sex is OK, normal and even to be expected. And it's been this way for some time. Is it any wonder when our kids (Christian kids) believe it?

I think some of the focus on abstinence has helped. I think some of the church programs like True Love Waits has possibly helped at least begin to counter this culturally accepted idea of sex outside marriage.

Okay, kaykay will step off her soapbox now!
How true it is that the church has adopted a more worldly mindset in light of the admonision given by the Word not to do so. It saddens me that "Christian" marriages end in divorce just as frequently as "non-Christian" marriages. That should not be the case. The church does need to step up and teach the biblical principles of love and marriage and respect for ones self so Christians are aware of what is expected of them and that marriage is nothing to be entered into lightly. And neither is sexual relations before marriage something that is without consequence or ramification and cannot be considered something casual. I agree, the church needs to do more.

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The question was "Can a Christian have sex.....?" Of course they can. However, maybe the question should be "Should a Christian WANT to have sex outside of wedlock?" The answer to that should be no, no, no.

<snip>

Who bears the greater sin? The one that commits adultery, or the one that neglects the other?
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Very good points. Some people say that marriage is a 50-50 partnership. I think it's more than that- it should be 100-100. Each one giving their all, not just trying to meet the half-way mark and stopping there. If course, this is probably idealistic, but maybe something we could at least work toward. Some days my wife may do "more than her share" some days it may be my turn.. however, if we're truly one, and love our partner like ourself, it's not a sacrifice.
Padgett, I agree completely with your opening statement. And I think cg81 gave a very good response. Let me just add that they're both equally guilty. Neglect in a marriage, IMO, is more problematic and may lead to more infidelity, but usually you don't have one without the other. They're putting themselves first and not their spouse. I think simply doing that, putting your spouse before you in all things and thinking about them and their feelings before making and decision or doing any action, would go a tremendos way in keeping marriages healthy and happy and sustainable.

We are told in the Bible to love one another as we love ourselves. This goes the same for marriage. Husbands are to love their wives as Christ loves the church. Can you imagine how much love that is?? If only more couples would follow these two simple instructions.....

As far as having sex outside marriage, I think it is a shame. I know it happens. I'm not blind. But just think about how many social ills result from this behavior. No, I'm not blaming all ills solely on this one issue, but it is a major contributor to many problems. Sure, in the short term it can be pleasing and gratifying to a person/couple but that's the flesh talking... not the spirit.
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:31 AM
 
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Can a Christian? Yes.

May a Christian? No.

Do Christians? Yes.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:05 AM
 
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Can a Christian? Yes.

May a Christian? No.

Do Christians? Yes.
Do "Christians?" Yes. Do Christians? No.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:18 AM
 
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Do "Christians?" Yes. Do Christians? No.
Confused.. you say they don't?
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:40 PM
 
Location: west texas
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Sex outside of marriage is considered fornication, a sin, and when somebody asks for forgiveness by accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior, they have to be sincere about their repentence of past sins, and forgiveness does not give anyone the right to go back to a sinful lifestyle, then ask for forgiveness again, God doesn't work that way because he knows your motives and how sincere you are.

that pretty much answers it. NO, they shouldnt have sex/baby out of wedlock, but it happens. and if you want to make it right, repent with a sincere heart to be forgiven and dont do it again. ok you had a baby. that doesnt mean you can keep having sex.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:21 PM
 
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Just for the sake of discussion, let me throw this out.

We are seeing more and more older couples where both are unmarried for one reason or another, that do not want to get married again, or cannot because of pension plans, etc. and there is no chance for children. Is it still sinful for them to indulge in sex outside of marriage? And Yes, old folks do have sex
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:41 PM
 
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But Kay, God gave them those sexual urges, didn't He? Just like He gave the urge to seek warmth and food and comfort. It's an urge that stays important. It may have been to insure procreation, but the drive to have sex, lasts a lot longer than the ability to have children.

Is it just possible that He was prohibiting any sex that was endangering the marriage bonds?
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:45 PM
 
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I'm confused, I could have sworn that there was another post between my last two? Can you delete a post and it completly disappears?
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Plano, Texas
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I'm confused, I could have sworn that there was another post between my last two? Can you delete a post and it completly disappears?
Yes, Padgett, I deleted it! Sorry to confuse you! I just decided I had spouted off enough today and it's one of those days when it seems like everything I say makes someone mad even when it seems innocuous to me!

So ...yes, I said I didn't think age made any difference in a scriptural prohibition.
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