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Hopefully not. But I wouldn't be blind to the possibility. We bailed on our children's parochial school when the Dominican sisters, in accordance with Ratzinger's edict, began teaching all the prayers in Latin.
The Catholic Church will continue to move forward with or without Rome, the Church is the body of believers.
You need a valid successor to an Apostle to be a church. So if you don't like the valid successor to Peter at the Vatican, then I suggest joining a church led by the valid successor to James (Jerusalem) or Andrew (Istanbul), or, ironically, Peter again, but at Antioch, or any one of the Eastern Orthodox Churches. We are a Catholic AND Apostolic Church, as the Nicene Creed states, not a Catholic OR Apostolic Church. We are not like the protestants: "Just the Bible and me!" We are not individualists. We are not like Luther and the other "Reformers" who taught that each person could interpret Scripture in their own way....if we were so, then we wouldn't be Catholic anymore....if you agree with them, then join them....because that's not Catholic.
The Catholic Church will continue to move forward with or without Rome, the Church is the body of believers.
That is like saying christianity will continue to move forward with or without Christ. I'm guessing you don't believe that Peter was chosen by Jesus to be the chief apostle, or to be or any type of leader. And I'm guessing you don't believe in Apostolic succession. If that is so, then I have no idea what makes you Catholic. "I believe in One, Catholic AND APOSTOLIC church."
Hopefully not. But I wouldn't be blind to the possibility. We bailed on our children's parochial school when the Dominican sisters, in accordance with Ratzinger's edict, began teaching all the prayers in Latin.
Wow, my kids never had a chance to learn their prayers in Latin. I would loved that sort of tradition. Why are you so much against Latin? Are you a Protestant?
Originally Posted by cpg35223 Hopefully not. But I wouldn't be blind to the possibility. We bailed on our children's parochial school when the Dominican sisters, in accordance with Ratzinger's edict, began teaching all the prayers in Latin.
Wow, my kids never had a chance to learn their prayers in Latin. I would loved that sort of tradition. Why are you so much against Latin? Are you a Protestant?
It goes back to historic anti-Catholic bigotry, the old fear and cliche that The Church doesn't want the laity to understand Scripture and such, (because if they did, they would stop being Catholic!!), so they do things in Latin, a language that most lay people, especially by the Middle Ages, didn't speak anymore. Of course this whole premise is faulty as one can always learn Latin and is indeed encouraged to by The Church and that most missals, at least in english-speaking countries, have an english translation. Sadly, even a few Catholics have adopted or were brainwashed by anti-Catholics to believe this.
Others are just like children; they rebel just for the sake of rebeling. To them there is no authority other than themselves (this is a protestant mind set that has sadly seeped into some Catholics') and so reject any and all directives from a Bishop or the Vatican. If they want to say prayers in whatever language they want, then NO ONE has the authority to tell thenm otherwise, so they think.
Originally Posted by cpg35223 Hopefully not. But I wouldn't be blind to the possibility. We bailed on our children's parochial school when the Dominican sisters, in accordance with Ratzinger's edict, began teaching all the prayers in Latin.
Wow, my kids never had a chance to learn their prayers in Latin. I would loved that sort of tradition. Why are you so much against Latin? Are you a Protestant?
This may also be a form of bigotry in general. Hating any language or culture other than you own, like Latin.
It goes back to historic anti-Catholic bigotry, the old fear and cliche that The Church doesn't want the laity to understand Scripture and such, (because if they did, they would stop being Catholic!!), so they do things in Latin, a language that most lay people, especially by the Middle Ages, didn't speak anymore. Of course this whole premise is faulty as one can always learn Latin and is indeed encouraged to by The Church and that most missals, at least in english-speaking countries, have an english translation. Sadly, even a few Catholics have adopted or were brainwashed by anti-Catholics to believe this.
Others are just like children; they rebel just for the sake of rebeling. To them there is no authority other than themselves (this is a protestant mind set that has sadly seeped into some Catholics') and so reject any and all directives from a Bishop or the Vatican. If they want to say prayers in whatever language they want, then NO ONE has the authority to tell thenm otherwise, so they think.
I agree with you.
Historically Latin was the lingua franca of Europe. Newton wrote his Principia landmark paper in Latin despite being English. Descartes wrote in Latin too. There is a historical reason as to why the mass was in Latin. I feel bad for these new age Catholics that have no historical background or tradition. Yes, they do look like Protestants.
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