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Old 09-27-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Are we supposed to be vegetarian?

Although this was posted in my lighthearted bug thread. I really didn't know that there were no carnivores prior to the fall.

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This would seem reasonable.. The bugs may have been there, but as it says in the Bible:

Genesis 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

... it looks like before the fall, there were no carnivores! spiders didn't eat flies, etc.. everything subsisted on plant life. The predator/prey system was instituted after the fall, IMO, and along with this came the "pest" part of the world.. Poisonous spiders, snakes, etc, mosquitoes and leeches needing blood..
So should we not eat meat in order to live more closely to what God originally intended for us?

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Old 09-27-2007, 12:36 PM
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No I don't think so. I am still going to eat things that had parents

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Old 09-27-2007, 01:02 PM
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Well, we know Jesus cooked and ate fish. So...I would assume not. Also, Peter fell into a trance and saw all kinds of previously "unclean" food and he was instructed to 'kill and eat.' So...again, I assume not. Later in Timothy, St. Paul makes a reference that in the last days there will be some who will forbid to marry and to eat meat...So again, I assume not.

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Well.. there were a few other things that changed after the fall, too.. For instance, wearing clothing! (So maybe naked vegetarian hippies had something going after all! LOL!)
But back to the OP..
Genesis 3: 21 ¶ Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
It appears that after the fall, an animal would have had to die to make clothing for them. IMO, this would have been the beginning of the era of flesh being killed for food, whether it be animals killing other animals or humans killing them. Not God's original plan, but death came because of sin..

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Old 09-27-2007, 01:10 PM
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Although this was posted in my lighthearted bug thread. I really didn't know that there were no carnivores prior to the fall.



So should we not eat meat in order to live more closely to what God originally intended for us?
I think there are undeniable benefits to not eating meat, and coming from California I know several vegetarians who look great and feel great...they realize it is a personal decision but the benefits to their health have been astounding! So...jury's out a bit on this one for me...I think we shouldn't be under the law about it, but...

And you know what I just noticed for the first time ever about the verse that was quoted?

Genesis 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

The wording here strikes me as a bit odd. If God created all animals and people to be vegetarians, why did He liken "green herbs" as "meat"? Does anyone see what I'm getting at here? Like, why didn't God just say green herbs were for "food" instead of "meat", if no one was supposed to want to eat meat anyway, and I assume, would never have done so if sin didn't happen? Yet it sounds like He was subsituting meat with green herbs for everyone...

Did that make a lick of sense, as my dad would say?

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I think there are undeniable benefits to not eating meat, and coming from California I know several vegetarians who look great and feel great...they realize it is a personal decision but the benefits to their health have been astounding! So...jury's out a bit on this one for me...I think we shouldn't be under the law about it, but...

And you know what I just noticed for the first time ever about the verse that was quoted?

Genesis 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

The wording here strikes me as a bit odd. If God created all animals and people to be vegetarians, why did He liken "green herbs" as "meat"? Does anyone see what I'm getting at here? Like, why didn't God just say green herbs were for "food" instead of "meat", if no one was supposed to want to eat meat anyway, and I assume, would never have done so if sin didn't happen? Yet it sounds like He was subsituting meat with green herbs for everyone...

Did that make a lick of sense, as my dad would say?
It makes sense, but you're the "original language" king! What does the word mean in the original language?

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Old 09-27-2007, 01:17 PM
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It makes sense, but you're the "original language" king! What does the word mean in the original language?
Oh kaykay! This verse doesn't have hell in it, so how would I know?!LOL!

I'm not wanting to the leg work myself...but okay, gosh darn it, Blue Letter Bible , here I come!

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I'm thinking that the word "meat" in this sense wouldn't have meant "flesh" as we think of the term, rather any edible, nutritious food... but I'm waiting to see what you find, jeff!

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Oh kaykay! This verse doesn't have hell in it, so how would I know?!LOL!

I'm not wanting to the leg work myself...but okay, gosh darn it, Blue Letter Bible , here I come!
Unwritten rule of CD Religion Forum- poster that questions word in scripture has to do "the leg work."

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Unwritten rule of CD Religion Forum- poster that questions word in scripture has to do "the leg work."
Thats right..I fall into the old say-so "Its in the bible"..Hey, anyone want part of this steak hoagie I just heated up

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