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Old 07-30-2012, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Eusebius View Post
Both the fire and the life are eonian.

Both are pertaining to the eons.

The Bible says the eons end.

Therefore both the eonian fire and the eonian life ends.

But we live on because we will have put on immortality.
So, eternal life ends, but we live on because we have immortality In other words we have eternal life.

What happens when the eternal covenant ends?

What happens when the eternal dwellings expire and disappear? Where do you go then?

What happens when eternal inheritance expires? Will you expelled from the presence of the Lord?

What happens when eternal glory disappears? Will you be left alone?

Where are you going to live your immortal life when the eternal kingdom expired and disappears?

 
Old 07-30-2012, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Believe it or not but there is a rule against off-topic posts. I am tired of seeing the same talking points pasted on every single thread here even when they have nothing to do with the topic. Why don't you start your own thread about universal salvation and copy/paste all your favorite selling points there.

Fin my post is on line with eternity. I have spoken mostly concerning the aions which is what the topic is about. I do not cut and paste other peoples stuff, I write what I see not what someone else sees. The only reason I spoke on anything else besides the aions was in response to what Mike said to me. So if your going to blame someone for going off topic look to another. I stayed on topic.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 04:53 PM
 
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Again, we have those who rely upon their English translations to prove their point.

Jesus did NOT speak koine Greek. He spoke Aramaic.

The "olam" translated to "aionios" translated to "forever" is plain out wrong. There is NOTHING in etymology to support that chain of translation.

God is practically screaming to us all...... the message is LOVE..... but who is listening?
 
Old 07-30-2012, 04:59 PM
 
Location: New England
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Again, we have those who rely upon their English translations to prove their point.

Jesus did NOT speak koine Greek. He spoke Aramaic.

The "olam" translated to "aionios" translated to "forever" is plain out wrong. There is NOTHING in etymology to support that chain of translation.

God is practically screaming to us all...... the message is LOVE..... but who is listening?
Those who know who God is by Beholding the Son.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 05:14 PM
 
Location: NC
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What happens when the eternal covenant ends?

What happens when the eternal dwellings expire and disappear? Where do you go then?

What happens when eternal inheritance expires? Will you expelled from the presence of the Lord?

What happens when eternal glory disappears? Will you be left alone?

Where are you going to live your immortal life when the eternal kingdom expired and disappears?
Hi, what happens when God when God becomes all in all? (1 Corinthians 15) Where will be our eternal dwelling when God becomes all in all? How can someone be expelled from the presence of God when He is all in all? How can anyone be left alone, when He becomes all in all? Does God who will be all in all disappear if there is no kingdom?

1 Cor. 15: 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, “ All things are put in subjection,” it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.


God bless and peace.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Hi, what happens when God when God becomes all in all? (1 Corinthians 15) Where will be our eternal dwelling when God becomes all in all? How can someone be expelled from the presence of God when He is all in all? How can anyone be left alone, when He becomes all in all? Does God who will be all in all disappear if there is no kingdom?

1 Cor. 15: 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, “ All things are put in subjection,” it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

God bless and peace.
Doesn't answer any of the points. You are saying out eternal inheritence lasts only until the judgment day?

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Old 07-30-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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HI, I believe that it answers the points Eonian inheritance. The elect will rule and reign with Jesus in the age to come, inherit the kingdom.
When God ultimately becomes all in all, nothing more will be needed. The ages are for a purpose but He transcends the eons, the ages, time. And He will be in all in all. That is the goal.


1 Cor. 15: 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, “ All things are put in subjection,” it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.



God bless and peace.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I believe that it answers the points. Eonian inheritance. The elect will rule and reign with Jesus in the age to come, inherit the kingdom.When God becomes all in all, nothing more will be needed. He transcends the eons, the ages, time. And He will be in all in all. God bless and peace.
LOL. Nothing more will be needed, because it is the eternal inheritance. Call it whatever you want, eons, ages, time, but you just described ETERNAL.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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Hi, ruling and reigning with Jesus in the age to come, and inheriting the kingdom will come to an end when Jesus subjects all to Himself so that God will be all in all. He delivers the kingdom to the Father. Nothing more will be needed because God Himself will be all in all. Those who have eonian life, the life of knowing God in this age and in the age to come, will have eternal life when they become immortal, raised from the dead by the Lord. God bless and peace.

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Old 07-30-2012, 06:17 PM
 
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God created the ages (eons) through Jesus Christ as presented in Hebrews 1. The ages (eons) eventually come to an end, but God exists forever. He existed before the ages (eons) and after the ages. (eons) When He becomes all in all, there will be no more purpose for the ages (eons) or time. When God becomes all in all, will there be a need for the gospel, judgment, salvation? No, because there will be no more sinners, no more lost persons. The creation will have been released from the curse of sin and death which resulted when Adam sinned. All will have been made whole when God becomes all in all.

Matthew 25-Aionios” refers to something belonging to the ages of time, and that “kolasis” most definitely refers to correction, which by nature cannot be endless). The key is in knowing that God’s punishment is for the purpose of correction. The ages were created by God for man to experience Him and to go through changes during this process. Punishment is one of those experiences that takes place during the ages and belongs to the ages. This is why it is always used in conjunction with the Greek word “aionios” (of or belonging to the ages). AP Adams

God bless and peace.
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