Today is a Dark Day for Those That Are Christians (women, church)
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Around 70,000 died from the blast, it is estimated that a total of around 140,000 died from it and the after effects.
During the 'Second Sino-Japanese War' ['37 - '45], Japan suffered around 480,000 losses while killing 1.7Million Chinese and wounding an additional 1.9Million Chinese, with the rape of Nanking and the following atrocities.
Over 60Million died during WWII from the various acts of war.
I don't understand the OP's post. Untimately, it was the only thing that stopped the Japanesse from pursuing a losing war. No doubt many more were saved from being killed. US military estimates were that possibly as many as a million of our soldiers would have been killed if they would have had to proceed with a complete land invasion. The number of Japanese dead would have certainly been many million more considering all Japanese were supposed to fight to the death. I believe atomic weapons have been a big reason we have not had another big world war. The cost would be too high for all. Maybe we should rejoice over nuclear weapons over the many lives ultimately saved.
I don't understand the OP's post. Untimately, it was the only thing that stopped the Japanesse from pursuing a losing war. No doubt many more were saved from being killed. US military estimates were that possibly as many as a million of our soldiers would have been killed if they would have had to proceed with a complete land invasion. The number of Japanese dead would have certainly been many million more considering all Japanese were supposed to fight to the death. I believe atomic weapons have been a big reason we have not had another big world war. The cost would be too high for all. Maybe we should rejoice over nuclear weapons over the many lives ultimately saved.
I was also always told what you were told that if we didn't drop the bombs we would lose over a million in a land invasion, tell a lie often enough and people will believe it, the truth of the matter is that Japan had been seeking to surrender for 3 months before the bombing.
Also official military reports stated at the time that Japan's ability to make
war could only last for several more months at the most.
The main reason we dropped the bomb was to send a message to Russia, some also speculate that wanting revenge for Pearl Harbor added fuel to the fire.
Around 70,000 died from the blast, it is estimated that a total of around 140,000 died from it and the after effects.
During the 'Second Sino-Japanese War' ['37 - '45], Japan suffered around 480,000 losses while killing 1.7Million Chinese and wounding an additional 1.9Million Chinese, with the rape of Nanking and the following atrocities.
Over 60Million died during WWII from the various acts of war.
You do not say what your point is in quoting those statistics, is it somehow to justify the bombings because less people were killed, as if the rape of Nanking is the moral threshold of what is allowable.
Much like Teddy Roosevet justified the rounding up of several hundred unarmed Filipino men, women and children in a crator and killing them by saying it was no worst than what happened at wounded Knee as if that was the acceptable standard.
How can you people think this way, I assume you posting at a Christian forum you consider yourself a Christian
Does anyone here know what the Japanese actually did to the Chinese?...If memory serves, the information of the actual horrors and atrocities weren't revealed until many years after WWII...and these by eyewitnesses, europeans and Americans that were trapped there during the Japanese occupation...Using the chinese as live bayonet practice dummies...Participating in Samurai Sword cometitions where the competitors would ride at full gallop along a line of chinese people and attempt to cut off as many heads as he could with one ongoing swipe of his sword to win...Cutting babies out of there mothers' wombs and at times performing it in surgery so the mother would live and then forcing her to hold her dead baby in her arms...Using men and women for every perverted sexual act one can think of...Making women mount them having sex and just before climax cutting their head off with a sharp sword...The Japanese considered the Chinese as dogs and did to them whatever they wanted, raping little girls and boys, even six month old babies and then tossing the babies body in a ditch or a bonfire...They experienced for themselves every conceivable horror using the Chinese people, things they could not and would not do to their own women or children back home in Japan...They had done similarly to the Koreans, again because in their mind they were dogs to be done with as one pleased...Does anyone think we should have allowed this civilization to continue as they were, committing atrocities and horrors on those around them?...If they could have occupied America, do you think we would have fared any better than the Chinese and Koreans?...Take the Nazis and what they did to millions of people, mostly Jews, but also Gypsies, homosexuals, anyone that they deemed as an abberation or imperfection on society...How are we to allow a sick socirty to perpetrate such atrocities on another society and just stand by and watch, hoping and praying that we're not next to become objects of their perverted inhumane attentions?...How many of you would stand by and watch a woman being raped in a dark alley or a child being molested and hope and pray that the victimizer doesn't turn his attentions on you?...That is just an example on a smaller, more personal scale, but what the Germans and Japanese were doing was far worse and on a global scale...Read up on your history, and not the opinion or conspiracy pages but the actual history of events...It matters not how or why it was done, what matters is that they were stopped before they could inflict more pain on others around them...
why is it a dark day for Christians? Was the decision to drop the bomb made by a church, or a representative of all of us? Or do you believe it resulted in the unnecessary deaths of Christians, specifically?
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Does anyone here know what the Japanese actually did to the Chinese?...If memory serves, the information of the actual horrors and atrocities weren't revealed until many years after WWII...and these by eyewitnesses, europeans and Americans that were trapped there during the Japanese occupation...Using the chinese as live bayonet practice dummies...Participating in Samurai Sword cometitions where the competitors would ride at full gallop along a line of chinese people and attempt to cut off as many heads as he could with one ongoing swipe of his sword to win...Cutting babies out of there mothers' wombs and at times performing it in surgery so the mother would live and then forcing her to hold her dead baby in her arms...Using men and women for every perverted sexual act one can think of...Making women mount them having sex and just before climax cutting their head off with a sharp sword...The Japanese considered the Chinese as dogs and did to them whatever they wanted, raping little girls and boys, even six month old babies and then tossing the babies body in a ditch or a bonfire...They experienced for themselves every conceivable horror using the Chinese people, things they could not and would not do to their own women or children back home in Japan...They had done similarly to the Koreans, again because in their mind they were dogs to be done with as one pleased...Does anyone think we should have allowed this civilization to continue as they were, committing atrocities and horrors on those around them?...If they could have occupied America, do you think we would have fared any better than the Chinese and Koreans?...Take the Nazis and what they did to millions of people, mostly Jews, but also Gypsies, homosexuals, anyone that they deemed as an abberation or imperfection on society...How are we to allow a sick socirty to perpetrate such atrocities on another society and just stand by and watch, hoping and praying that we're not next to become objects of their perverted inhumane attentions?...How many of you would stand by and watch a woman being raped in a dark alley or a child being molested and hope and pray that the victimizer doesn't turn his attentions on you?...That is just an example on a smaller, more personal scale, but what the Germans and Japanese were doing was far worse and on a global scale...Read up on your history, and not the opinion or conspiracy pages but the actual history of events...It matters not how or why it was done, what matters is that they were stopped before they could inflict more pain on others around them...
so does that mean it was okay for usa to bomb the civilians of japan?
so does that mean it was okay for usa to bomb the civilians of japan?
You ought to read the book "Unbroken". It's the biography of Anthony Zamperini. Fascinating story. He was an olympic track star that would have likely medaled in the olympics but got drafted. His plane went down and he was on a raft for 47 days. He then spent a few years in Japanese prison camps. He describes the fact that the people of Japan were ready to fight to the death. The civilians were arming themselves for a coming invasion. If there was an invasion, the civilians would have fought tooth and nail.
so does that mean it was okay for usa to bomb the civilians of japan?
Is it ok to imprison someone who just stands there and watches a child be molested an does nothing?...
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