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Unread 08-05-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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When there was a line up and they were giving out the mark of the beast- I ducked out and kind of hid out...refusing to take it...and now- seriously speaking- I can not buy or sell...anything...If you are clean of the mark..the world sees that and subconsciously people will impoverish you and hinder your progress...I do sense this to be true---no mark- no deal..I would say that many of the so-called unemployed are those who did not take the mark..people of principle who really don't want to get involved with on going evil to earn a living- It's quite the bind to be in. BUT some would rather die than assist the world in further destroying itself with this spiritual suicide.
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Unread 08-05-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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I dont think a business would turn down cash(mark).

If money in some form is not the mark, that means if you refuse the mark
and have cash ,you will still be able to buy or sell.there is always black markets/underground
outlets.
Unless there is a new form of world wide currency, replacing all other forms. Making our american dollars
worthless, unless you convert them to the new form.(mark)

There is a lot of info on this, google it.(1 world currency)
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Unread 08-05-2012, 09:18 AM
 
Location: US
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I am sorry, you are expressing things and making wrong conclusions and for me to try to straighten it all out would be a waste of your time and mine.

I will simply state that...

Mr. Armstrong was absolutely correct, for if you do not keep the Commandments as Christ instructed His true disciples to do and you verify my words, if you do not obey God and His Commandments then you will not receive the Holy Spirit as it indirectly states in Acts 5:32 because if you are obeying God then you will be keeping His Commandments.

You have been deceived into actually avoiding the very things you need to do in order to receive God's Holy Spirit and receive the "faith OF Christ" instead of the "faith IN Christ" you appear to only have at this time.

Mr. Armstrong was right on target and he and members he baptized and were baptized by his fellow ministers and who had hands placed on them actually received God's Holy Spirit and the "faith OF Christ" to actually receive the faith to be saved. I have referenced material that you can look up independently and prove if the Radio Church of God later Worldwide Church of God had reports of divine healing from their members in their private church magazine.

I think you will find that my words are true.

And Mr. Armstrong was true a minister of God who was and is hated and slandered by Satan and his demons and by almost the entire world that is under their sway.
Private church magazine?...Well, there you have it...It must be the Truth because it is in there 'private church magazine'....
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Unread 08-05-2012, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Haha seriously? Ok I am an openminded person and do believe in god. I believe in Angels. And know that he is sending 6 Angels with every new born baby. While years past we only needed two. Life is harder to deflect evil. And those evils come in all shapes and forms. They also come from abuses, mental illnesses, poverty, ect.

People need to be more loving to each other, more understanding, and kind hearted. Stop jumping to conclusion and find the real reason.

Marks of the beast? I'll tell what you the biggest mark right now is! It's comglomerites! It's corporations! How many new things do we need! The corps. Control this country. Why do some teachers need 90% of their pension? And not pay their health insurance? Unions! Why do we have computers that are only good for 3 months off the market then tech- be behind? Polution anyone? Secret Anti-goverment people who by the way are feeding newscasters what to say to change the minds of Americans. Sterotypes are absolutely horrible. Not everyone is the same as another! Cults? That hate hate hate! Stop going on looks Americans! If we all looked alike and act alike this world would be very very boring.

Christains stop looking at your man made books. This is the 21st century. Many changes are coming. The year of the Snake is coming up.
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Unread 08-05-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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All 7th Day Adventists are seriously suggesting that.

But I do give them credit for rejecting the ET doctrine.

That Chick-Fil-A dude thinks he is honoring God by staying closed on Sundays. But the 7th Day Adventist believes it is all in vain.

People make God sound like a petty tyrant.
Hmmm...Have you ever read Paradise Lost by John Milton?....
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Unread 08-05-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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Whether Armstrong was right or not is not my reply.. but to say we are saved by Grace not Works is not enough....

Grace was surely given by God, but we are commanded to Fan the Flame of God, to endure in order to 'overcome'... this takes work!

And remember.. James words ...

James 2:

But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” 19You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 20But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? 22You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; 23and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS,” and he was called the friend of God. 24You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.
Zionstation?...Hmmm, just a ripoff of Rastafarianism...
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Unread 08-05-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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Amen .
Verna, did you take a look at his website?.... - - Entheogen News
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Unread 08-05-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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You are correct when you state that the Ten Commandments were NOT given by God Himself...nut it was Jesus Who gave them...there are Two Yahweh's...
Why did you call Marlbron a nut?...That wasn't very nice, Verna....
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Unread 08-05-2012, 10:41 AM
 
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In The Name of The Only God, The Compassionate, The Merciful. HIS, Peace Be Upon You, Everyone. I've read Jame Morgan Pryse's books since the 1980's and find their esoteric interpretation very helpful. You can find the brand of the beast as revealed in Revelation, in the following book: The Apocalypse Unsealed

Peace. devotee
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Unread 08-05-2012, 10:50 AM
 
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No, you are coming to the wrong conclusion.

You have been deceived in disbelieving Christ's own words when He said if you will enter into life keep the commandments.

God will only give His Holy Spirit to those who obey Him (Acts 5:32).

Which means that only those who keeps His Commandments and are obeying Him are the ones who actually can receive God's Holy Spirit which will give you the "faith OF Christ" to be saved. Now, you have to have "faith IN Christ" in order to receive this "faith OF Christ", but this "faith OF Christ" is the same faith Christ had when He did all the miracles that He did on this earth such as divine healing which is so lacking in these false Christian churches we see today and proof that they do not actually have God's Holy Spirit to be saved.

So those of you who think that you have been "freed the law" have been actually deceived into rejecting the very thing you need to do in order to receive God's Holy Spirit and receive the very "faith OF Christ" to actually be saved and to have divine healings in your churches which I think will support and back up my words.

So, please repent. You have been deceived like a majority of the people.
You mean this:

Act 5:29 But answering Peter and the apostles said, It is right to obey God rather than man.
Act 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you seized, hanging Him on a tree.
Act 5:31 This One God has exalted as a Ruler and Savior to His right hand, to give to Israel repentance and remission of sins.
Act 5:32 And we are His witnesses of these things, and also the Holy Spirit, whom God gave to those obeying Him.



First read back from verse 29 to find out what that statement in verse 29 is in reference to, it is not in reference to the Ten...It is in reference to them being told not to preach the Gospel...And why did HaShem exalt Yeshua as Ruler and Savior to His Right hand?...in order to give repentance and remission of sins to who?....I-S-R-E-A-L...And what do they say, that they are who's witnesses?...His, HaShem's, and who else is a witness?...The Holy Spirit....And HaShem gave this Holy Spirit to who?...Those obeying Him, HaShem....Obeying Him with regards to what?...What is the context of this account with the Sanhedrin?...They were disobeying the command of the Sanhedrin of not P-R-E-A-C-H-I-N-G the G-O-S-P-E-L, and what was Peter's response?...Go ahead, you can say it..."It is right to obey G-O-D rather than M-A-N."...And what was this in response to?...They were forbidden to P-R-E-A-C-H the G-O-S-P-E-L, not forbidden to obey T-H-E T-E-N C-O-M-M-A-N-D-M-E-N-T-S...This account had nothing to do with the Ten...It had to do with the Gospel and obeidience to HaShem in preaching it in the face of opposition and forebadence from the Sanhedrin...The proof that they had the Holy Spirit was not that they obeyed the Ten it was that they preached the Gospel despite what the Sanhedrin commanded them...So, you can't use that verse to maintain that the Holy Spirit is only given to those that obey the Ten, because that is not what is being said, what it is stating is that those that fearlessly preach the Gospel are obeying HaShem and therefore it is proof that they have the Holy Spirit because they are obeying HaShem rather than man and preaching the Gospel...
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