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Old 08-11-2012, 08:33 AM
 
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The world always confuses 'judging people' (God's job) with 'judging' (discerning) the difference between right and wrong -- the work of the Spirit working in/through believers. The foolish notion that people are not to know (or heaven forbid, say anything) about the difference between right and wrong is nothing more than 'political correctness' and has no part with truth.

1 Cor 2:12-15 - 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.[a] 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments,
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Old 08-12-2012, 04:01 PM
 
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First of all... in the Bible text it says the enemies of Jesus brought the woman to Jesus to try to trick Him.

The so-called "teachers of the law" [who Jesus said taught their own traditions instead of God's Law]
were always trying to trick Jesus in matters of God's Law. But Jesus kept God's Law perfectly.

God's Law was given to God's People for them to administer in their society.

God's Law requires the testimony of at least TWO witnesses before guilt is established. In the case of
adultery, if guilt is established, BOTH the man and the woman are executed.

That the so-called accusers had not also brought the man to Jesus is very telling.

When the tricksters brought the woman to Jesus, Jesus wrote something in the sand. We don't know
what Jesus wrote, but it was enough to make them run away

We get a hint when Jesus said, let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone. Most people
assume Jesus meant "sin" in general. That makes no sense for as Paul said, all have sinned; thereby
making it impossible for God's People to administer God's Law to whom it was given to administer.
The Law of God does not require this.

The "sin" Jesus references must relate to this specific incident.

The fact that the accusers ran away points to a grave sin that directly relates to witnesses.

Remember... God's Law requires the testimony of at least two witnesses.

God's Law also says that if anyone gives false witness, he is given the same penalty the innocently accused
would have been given... in this case, a false witness would be executed.


The bottom line is this:

Regardless of what Jesus wrote in the sand... regardless of why the woman's accusers ran away...
Jesus followed God's Law perfectly. There were no witnesses left to give testimony, so guilt could not
lawfully be established. Jesus told the woman to go and sin no more [that didn't prove her guilt either,
for as Paul said, we are all sinners.]



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Paul was wrong about all are sinners or Jesus would have never said "Go and sin no more". What people do not realize is that to be righteous is to sin no more.

"The words of the Lord are upright and all His works are truthful, He love s justice and right."

"Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect."
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Old 08-12-2012, 04:46 PM
 
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Speaking as a Christian, why do so many Christians ignore this passage? I know of several who love to gleefully judge others, and do so with great relish, almost as if they enjoy it.
your question shows you are in the flesh. If you were in the spirit, you would know the correct way to interpret that verse. The Lord Jesus tells us not to judge unrighteously. It doesnt mean to never judge. WE are to judge righteous judgment in accordance with John 7:24. What we enjoy doing is obeying God and if someone is in sin, I am gonna tell them so. Thats discernment, not judgment.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:35 PM
 
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your question shows you are in the flesh. If you were in the spirit, you would know the correct way to interpret that verse. The Lord Jesus tells us not to judge unrighteously. It doesnt mean to never judge. WE are to judge righteous judgment in accordance with John 7:24. What we enjoy doing is obeying God and if someone is in sin, I am gonna tell them so. Thats discernment, not judgment.
We are to judge good and evil for our own benefit . . . to know what WE should and should not do. We are NOT to judge others asif we are God and have the ability to judge rightly. WE are fallible and ignorant humans who have enough trouble judging ourselves and controlling our own behaviors. We have no authority to judge for God.
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