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Old 08-12-2012, 05:48 AM
 
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Mr. Armstrong was called by God back in the 1920's and went from nothing to a relatively large organization by the time he died.

He had God's Holy Spirit and received the "faith OF Christ" when one receives God's Holy Spirit. This faith is not what most Christians have today "faith IN Christ" but the actual faith that Christ had to perform all the miracles that he did when He was on this earth 2,000 years ago.

Apparently, no other ministers out there have this "faith OF Christ". They may have mass intercessor prayers by members or some of these divine healing shows (which Mr. Armstrong investigated in his local area and found by having those supposedly healed questioned that they were not divinely healed but unwitting fakes being pronounced healed when they really were not.).

There were genuine divine healings by the ministry of Mr. Armstrong and in some of the splinter groups that have come out of his organization.

Conclusion: Mr. Armstrong truly had God's Holy Spirit and he taught the right doctrines and the rest of the world does not have God Holy Spirit for the most part but is actually worshiping the god of this world Satan the Devil and following his doctrines.

Mr. Armstrong taught that the Royal Spiritual Law is the 10 Commandments. Not some man-made list of 613. He taught that we are to live by every word of God which includes all the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and not by every word of God found in some man-made list of 613. Even the Bible has a "water-mark" of the divisibility by 7 (see Ivan Panin's explanation), whereas this 613 list would probably only have divisibility by 7 in the words that were copied exactly from the ancient texts.

(If you are living by every word in that 613 list then you have been deceived by the Jews who were the ones who added about 65 extra dos and don'ts concerning the Sabbath that made it a yoke of bondage that Christ had to set aside again and again when they accused Him of breaking the Sabbath. If you worship the 613 you had better put this idol away! Repent of this Jewish deception!)

This Royal Spiritual Law is INSIDE Ark of God not on the OUTSIDE of the Ark where many of the 613 are taken. And the Ten Commandments are a summary of all the commandments of God. If you break any of the commandments not listed in Ten Commandments but are found somewhere else in the Word of God you are breaking one or more of the Ten Commandments in spirit. Example homosexuality breaks the 7th Commandment in spirit. That is if you commit homosexual acts you are breaking the same spiritual principle found in the 7th Commandment. So applied spiritually, the Spiritual Royal of God will cover all the commandments of God.

The Ten Commandments were written by the FINGER of God Himself and not by a hand of a mere man like Moses. The Ten Commandments are thus the only document worthy to be placed in the Ark. Think about it!

Exodus 31:
"And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God."

The Ten Commandments are a separate covenant to themselves. In Deuteronomy 5:22 -- "and he added no more." Galatians 3:15 states that no one can add to or disannul a covenant. Therefore God's Commandments are a separate covenant to themselves and this is the set that Christ referred to and not some man-made covenant of 613. The Ten Commandments have 10 "points" (italicized word that was inserted into the NT) as we see in James. And James identifies two "points" (adultery, murder) in the same context he made concerning "points".

And the false pagan doctrines brought into Christianity by the church of the Beast centered in Rome is something that Mr. Armstrong taught against. They should be so obviously wrong but the God of this world has blinded many to accept them as Christian. They are not and Mr. Armstrong warned this nation and the world to repent of this evil and that warning still goes out today.

Only one man had the faith enough to consistently pray to God and ask for divine healing for his flock and receive it. The ministers who he baptized and placed his hands on also anointed the flock with Mr. Armstrong and many were healed when they were anointed. Only one minister has preached God's Truth and faithfully endured until the end. Only one minister has preached the True Gospel of the Kingdom of God to all the world (and met with privately as many heads of state as he did).

This is not a worship of a man but and actual affirmation against all his slanderous enemies that Mr. Armstrong was the one TRUE minister and all the rest are FAKE ministers and their lack of divine healing in their organizations prove it and all their doctrinal errors prove it. Even postings of individuals on this forum about divine healing show they have more faith within themselves than these false church denominations out there who seem to have never heard of it.

So, WAKE UP!!!!! Repent!!!! Come out of these false organizations that are disobeying God!

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Old 08-12-2012, 06:32 AM
 
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Here we go again with Mr Armstrong......You claim to not be worshiping this man, but you sure do make him sound like he is a Messiah to you.

In the beginning when the 613 command were given in the Torah through Moses there were no Jews, every time people we to referred to back then they were referred to as Hebrews.

For you to say "If you break any of the commandments not listed in Ten Commandments but are found somewhere else in the Word of God you are breaking one or more of the Ten Commandments in spirit." you pretty much are admitting there is more to the bible than the 10 commandments and the 613 laws in the OT and the 1000 commands in the NT are relevant.

The law cannot, will not, was never able to and will never be able to save your soul, only faith in Christ is what saves a person of there sin. The laws purpose was to point out our sin and point you to Christ and a need for him. No I am not saying to go break the commandments, but when all you do is focus on the 10 commandments, you give the impression that self righteousness and law keeping is how one is to live, rather than walking by faith in the spirit.
 
Old 08-12-2012, 06:36 AM
 
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Here we go again with Mr Armstrong......You claim to not be worshiping this man, but you sure do make him sound like he is a Messiah to you.

In the beginning when the 613 command were given in the Torah through Moses there were no Jews, every time people we to referred to back then they were referred to as Hebrews.

For you to say "If you break any of the commandments not listed in Ten Commandments but are found somewhere else in the Word of God you are breaking one or more of the Ten Commandments in spirit." you pretty much are admitting there is more to the bible than the 10 commandments and the 613 laws in the OT and the 1000 commands in the NT are relevant.

The law cannot, will not, was never able to and will never be able to save your soul, only faith in Christ is what saves a person of there sin. The laws purpose was to point out our sin and point you to Christ and a need for him. No I am not saying to go break the commandments, but when all you do is focus on the 10 commandments, you give the impression that self righteousness and law keeping is how one is to live, rather than walking by faith in the spirit.
Sir, you basically said nothing but falsely accused me of worshipping Mr. Armstrong. Even Ivan Panin could see your list of 613 is not from God but just pieces of God's Word stolen to form your idol.

Mr. Armstrong has more spiritual vision than anyone I have seen post on this board and that is not saying very much for the lack of vision displayed here, believe me.
 
Old 08-12-2012, 08:14 AM
 
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I stopped reading at the subject header. Obviously false.

It should be no wonder that the 5th hit on google for WWCOG is:

http://www.exitsupportnetwork.com/child/raised.htm
and a sponsored link is:
http://hwarmstrong.com/?gclid=CIGVnK...FYWo4Aoda1cA3A
 
Old 08-12-2012, 08:17 AM
 
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I stopped reading at the subject header. Obviously false.
With no proof but just your opinion, it should be added.
 
Old 08-12-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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With no proof but just your opinion, it should be added.
Because language like, "Only True Ministers of God and Jesus Christ" is the language of cults. No respectable tradition within Christian orthodoxy speaks that way, even if they have disagreements with each other over non-salvific matters.
 
Old 08-12-2012, 08:41 AM
 
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I agree with you tthttf, All of these people after Mr.Armstrong are teaching contrary to what was taught. Alot of people reason, "oh but they have so much of the truth". But many don't realize that Mr.Armstrong stated in his articles "Satan Used and Decieve me? NEVER!!" and "Should We listen to others?" that if a church is off in "one" teaching, one doctrine, they are not God's church! He compared it to going to the SDA, they observe the seventh day sabbath, but just because they have one of God's truths, does not mean we should go and fellowship with them. Even if it is one step, one doctrine off, it is not God's church, because it is one step away from the truth, one step away from the light into darkness. Those that are one step away from the light are in darkness. Should we then fellowship with Darkness? What does light have to do with darkness?Can light fellowship with darkness? Christ said "let the Blind lead the blind;Come follow me". There are alot of haters out there.
There are alot of groups out there saying "we are walking in the footsteps" but are just trying to draw away believers after themselves. It is sad to see. But we are commanbded by Christ in Rev 3:11, to Hold Fast to what we have and to let no man take our crown. It indicates that if we do not hold fast to what was taught(remember God was speaking to the philadelphian era of God's church) we will lose our Eternal crowns! And how? By letting men take it from us! Actually the Devil is using these men, he deserves most of the blame, for we dont wrestle against flesh and blood. The Devil Can't take our crowns, but we can give it to him. HOW? by Compromise! If we compromise one of God's truths, the Devil will wrestle his way in and will take over! Mr.Armstrong was used by God for one reason, HE WOULD NOT COMROMISE THE TRUTH NO MATTER WHAT! That is how he did such a mighty work, GOD COULD USE HIM BECAUSE HE BELIEVED GOD!! Do we believe God? Or do we want to decide what we think is right, and pick and choose what we believe? That is what all these groups are doing. They are doing what they think is right in theri won eyes and not what is right in God's eyes. These groups are the beast of the field. Babylon rules them. They serve Casaer not Christ through 501(c)3 tax status, which means they have to comply with the IRS(and now Homeland security through a presidential execuitive order which puts all 501(c)3 organisations under the control of Homeland Security and FEMA)rulings. These churches couldn't wait to get married with Christ and so they married the kings of the earth. What system does that sound like coming from the Bible? The Great *****, Mystery, Babylon the Great. They through 501(c)3 have joined themselves with the great *****. They are now daughters of the great *****! And God commands us to come out of her my people; That you partake not of her plagues! SO many don't realize this. We must repent and return back unto the Trunk of the tree, back to what we were called into, back to our first love. Those that believe God today, and Obey his commands in Rev 3:11, will be protected from the Great Tribulation. Those who take it ho-hum, and not seriously will have to prove themselves to God that they belive him even unto death through torture. We are truly mirroring the first century. Do we Believe God?
 
Old 08-12-2012, 08:41 AM
 
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Because language like, "Only True Ministers of God and Jesus Christ" is the language of cults. No respectable tradition within Christian orthodoxy speaks that way, even if they have disagreements with each other over non-salvific matters.

 
Old 08-12-2012, 08:44 AM
 
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Because language like, "Only True Ministers of God and Jesus Christ" is the language of cults. No respectable tradition within Christian orthodoxy speaks that way, even if they have disagreements with each other over non-salvific matters.
Wrong again! Most of the ministers who claim to be ministers of Jesus Christ are actually ministers of Baal performing the same pagan rites performed thousands of years ago by heathen pagans AND who now have disguised themselves as representing Christ by placing His name on their abominations such as Sunday worship, Christmas and Easter. Anyone should be able to see through this, you would think. But Satan has deceived the entire world except those who have God's Holy Spirit it would seem.

Elijah was the one true prophet who had a showdown with the prophets of Baal. One True, the rest false. And we know which prophet God was for and be backed him up with as miraculous show by burning up his sacrifice and the only response all the prophets of Baal received was just Elijah mocking them.

Mr. Armstrong was the one and ONLY true minister versus all his false accusers who are really just fakes, believe it or not! All the other ministers are NOT supported by God and divine healing is just one of the proofs.

Just one right and rest are wrong viciously slandering the right one as much as they can to hide the fact that they are fakes.
 
Old 08-12-2012, 09:03 AM
 
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He was the kind of person the Bible warns about.

2 tim 6:4 He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 5*and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.
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