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Old 10-10-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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Just adding...

Romans 3
30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.


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Since when is it wrong to obey all that God asks, all ten commandments? Jesus summed them in two, however, how would one know the depth of two if one does not know the ten? And who is the One who created the ten? The Father and Son are One and in total agreement.

The ten commandments are God's righteousness and justice given to mankind ( such a wonderful blessing for our good), as Jesus said; He is Lord of the Sabbath.

Not one person stood up for Jesus and His righteousness, only the Father.

Stand by God, stand up for Jesus and His commandments, He will love you when no one else will and when we pass from this earth, Jesus will be the One holding your hand.

God Bless, Mercy
To whom was the Old Covenant given to? Answer that and you will see that the Sabbath law was not given to the Gentles. People just seem to think it is alright to add to Gods' word and thereby fool with eternal souls.
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Old 10-11-2012, 01:27 AM
 
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Just adding...

Romans 3
30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.


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Since when is it wrong to obey all that God asks, all ten commandments? Jesus summed them in two, however, how would one know the depth of two if one does not know the ten? And who is the One who created the ten? The Father and Son are One and in total agreement.

The ten commandments are God's righteousness and justice given to mankind ( such a wonderful blessing for our good), as Jesus said; He is Lord of the Sabbath.

Not one person stood up for Jesus and His righteousness, only the Father.

Stand by God, stand up for Jesus and His commandments, He will love you when no one else will and when we pass from this earth, Jesus will be the One holding your hand.

God Bless, Mercy
...Amen Mercy...I love the TRUTH of the Gospel of Jesus Christ !
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Old 10-11-2012, 01:33 AM
 
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...People just seem to think it is alright to add to Gods' word and thereby fool with eternal souls.
...and people...think it is alright to take away from God's word and make it what they want it to be to justify their living in sin...and teaching this to faithful seeking of God's Truth souls . The penalty for them is horrendous . I wouldn't want to be them on judgement day.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:49 AM
 
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...and people...think it is alright to take away from God's word and make it what they want it to be to justify their living in sin...and teaching this to faithful seeking of God's Truth souls . The penalty for them is horrendous . I wouldn't want to be them on judgement day.
2COR 3:13-17 "And [we] not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: But their minds were blinded: for until this day there remains the same vail untaken away in the reading of the Old Testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."

Christ is well able to deliver from sin. I don't justify sin. You just don't understand what sin is for the Gentle.

The vail remains in the reading of the Old Testament. If you want the Old Testament to save you then the vail remains and Christ is of no value to you. It is written "Behold the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world." for "He that is born of God does not sin [willfully]." But, you do not to believe that for others. You want to hang as much sin on them as possible by your false Sabbath teaching after Christ has taken away their sin and He Himself teaches them [not you or me] the way of Truth by the Spirit, not the law. I simply point to Christ as the one who gives Grace and Truth.

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Old 10-11-2012, 07:04 AM
 
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People need to realize with all the wickedness going on in the world, that God is not going to make a giant deal out of if he is being worshiped on a Saturday or a Sunday as a day or rest, if you keep him 1rst all the other days of the week as well.

1rst day of the week he created the heavens and the earth.
7th day he rested.
1rst day his son rose from the grave.
1rst day was Pentecost in which the holy spirit came down.

Is there really anything bad in Sunday worship as long as you are not worshiping the literal Sun God Nimrodand you can worship a Sun God on Saturday as well. It is our relationship with Jesus that matter the most, not outward observances.
And before certain people make the usual comment. I AM NOT AGAINST anyone who keeps a Saturday sabbath, i am against all the condemnation they give to others when people dont worship the exact same way they do. I have showed many times proof that 1rst century church leaders in the 100AD's long before Constantine were worshiping on Sundays in honor of the resurrection and it always goes ignored, so if you are going to do research and say Constantine this and catholic pope that, do complete research and see what was going on before them as well.
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:23 AM
 
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People need to realize with all the wickedness going on in the world, that God is not going to make a giant deal out of if he is being worshiped on a Saturday or a Sunday as a day or rest, if you keep him 1rst all the other days of the week as well.

1rst day of the week he created the heavens and the earth.
7th day he rested.
1rst day his son rose from the grave.
1rst day was Pentecost in which the holy spirit came down.

Is there really anything bad in Sunday worship as long as you are not worshiping the literal Sun God Nimrodand you can worship a Sun God on Saturday as well. It is our relationship with Jesus that matter the most, not outward observances.
And before certain people make the usual comment. I AM NOT AGAINST anyone who keeps a Saturday sabbath, i am against all the condemnation they give to others when people dont worship the exact same way they do. I have showed many times proof that 1rst century church leaders in the 100AD's long before Constantine were worshiping on Sundays in honor of the resurrection and it always goes ignored, so if you are going to do research and say Constantine this and catholic pope that, do complete research and see what was going on before them as well.
Christ was not resurrected on SUN-day!

He was resurrected on the 7th Day Sabbath just as it was about to end, just before sunset, exactly 72 hours after He was put in the tomb before the 1st Day of Unleavened Bread began at sunset.

This booklet will explain it:

Title: The Resurrection Was Not on Sunday
Author: Herbert W Armstrong
Date: 1952, 1971, 1972
Type: Booklet
Type Media: PDF

http://www.cog-web-svc.com/hwa/books...surrection.pdf
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:56 AM
 
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Christ was not resurrected on SUN-day!

He was resurrected on the 7th Day Sabbath just as it was about to end, just before sunset, exactly 72 hours after He was put in the tomb before the 1st Day of Unleavened Bread began at sunset.

This booklet will explain it:

Title: The Resurrection Was Not on Sunday
Author: Herbert W Armstrong
Date: 1952, 1971, 1972
Type: Booklet
Type Media: PDF

http://www.cog-web-svc.com/hwa/books...surrection.pdf
Let's see. Three day's and three nights = 72 hours.

But:
Armstrong was a false teacher and you need to do as his church did and turn from his error back to Christ.

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Old 10-14-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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Let's see. Three day's and three nights = 72 hours.

But:
Armstrong was a false teacher and you need to do as his church did and turn from his error back to Christ.
Wrong!

Mr. Armstrong taught the Truth.

The true spiritual Church of God that believed the Truths that he taught did not go into the errors of mainstream Christianity.

In fact here is a letter I wrote on this very subject back in 5/22/1994 (before all their false doctrines came to light). I mistakenly called them Laodice. I should have called them Jezebel instead. Also the Laodicean era is not quite here yet according to the teachings of Mr. Armstrong. It will come when the Great Tribulation begins and this will come after the work that Mr. Armstrong did ceases.


NABAL AND ABIGAIL

To the editor of [the magazine this church who turned against Mr. Armstrong]:

In the Bible, Abigail was a virtuous woman who had an evil husband named Nabal. She interceded for her husband and prevented David from putting him to death for his wickedness concerning David and his men.

She later became one of David's wives after God smote Nabal.

There is another Abigail-type woman who also interceded for a man that she one day hoped to marry. This woman (let's also call her Abigail for now) was initially attracted to a man that she eventually came to view as a misguided, bragging, arrogant demagogue. She later felt she had to come behind this man (let's call him Nabal for now) and smooth over everything he did or said.

If Nabal said it was 100 degrees, she would say no it was only about 85 degrees. if he said the distance was five miles she would say, no it was only about two miles. It seems everything Nabal esteemed as exceptional, Abigail always esteemed at a much lower value.

At about ninety-three, Nabal finally died. He never married Abigail. In fact, they grew to loathe each other's company in the later years. They could never agree on anything it seems. She always viewed him as pompous and arrogant, and he viewed her as a very worldly woman. Yet in his will, Nabal left Abigail in possession of all of his wealth, property and the copyrights to his works.

After his death, Abigail tried to remove all contributions that Nabal had made in life. He had written several books making fantastic claims that she thought were sheer nonsense. She was a very out-going person and did not like to offend anyone. She sought everyone's approval, even the enemies of this man she once claimed to love.

She held the copyrights to Nabal's works and refused to publish them and would not let anyone else publish and distribute these works. She even began writing on the same subjects that Nabal use to write on and called in experts to give her the expertise so her writings would be accepted by the respected intellectuals and scholars of the world.

What she didn't realize is that what she was trying to write about, had been written many centuries earlier and that her thoughts and approach to the subjects were the same thoughts and approach that the world had taken about 1700 years ago. She was just 1700 years behind where the world had already evolved to. The only response she got from the worldly people she was trying to impress was that she had finally seen the light and rejected the works of her wicked would-be husband -- Nabal.

WAKE UP, MEMBERS OF [the church that turned against Mr. Armstrong]!!

Nabal is how the current administration of [the church that turned against Mr. Armstrong] views Jesus Christ working through Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong for over fifty years in the Philadelphia Era of God Almighty's work on this earth!

Shame on you for trying to apologize to the world for Mr. Armstrong about his fantastic and accurate claim that man's ultimate destiny is to become God as God is God!

You are no Abigail! You are the same bunch of liberals who were thorns in Mr. Armstrong's side throughout his life. You played all your cards right at the end and tricked Mr. Armstrong into leaving the work in your hands that has given birth to the end-time Laodician Era.

Again, you are no Abigail! Your real name is Laodice! Named after the infamous assassin wife of the king of the North referred to in Dan 11:6. You, like the original Laodice went after her husband, are trying to destroy Jesus Christ and His Bride - God's True Church! Shame on you!

Again, I say, WAKE UP!! RETURN TO GOD BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!

=== end of letter ===
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:27 AM
 
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Christ was not resurrected on SUN-day!

He was resurrected on the 7th Day Sabbath just as it was about to end, just before sunset, exactly 72 hours after He was put in the tomb before the 1st Day of Unleavened Bread began at sunset.

This booklet will explain it:

Title: The Resurrection Was Not on Sunday
Author: Herbert W Armstrong
Date: 1952, 1971, 1972
Type: Booklet
Type Media: PDF

http://www.cog-web-svc.com/hwa/books...surrection.pdf
The Saturday resurrection teaching is false doctrine. if he didn't rise on the 1rst day , he did not become the first fruit, meaning his not the messiah. So please delete H Armstrong teaching from your mind and read scriptures for yourself to get the correct understanding of scriptures.

You understand feast days so you should know if he died on Passover then rose on the third day that would make him fullfill the feast of first fruits.
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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Wrong!

Mr. Armstrong taught the Truth.

The true spiritual Church of God that believed the Truths that he taught did not go into the errors of mainstream Christianity.

In fact here is a letter I wrote on this very subject back in 5/22/1994 (before all their false doctrines came to light). I mistakenly called them Laodice. I should have called them Jezebel instead. Also the Laodicean era is not quite here yet according to the teachings of Mr. Armstrong. It will come when the Great Tribulation begins and this will come after the work that Mr. Armstrong did ceases.


NABAL AND ABIGAIL

To the editor of [the magazine this church who turned against Mr. Armstrong]:

In the Bible, Abigail was a virtuous woman who had an evil husband named Nabal. She interceded for her husband and prevented David from putting him to death for his wickedness concerning David and his men.

She later became one of David's wives after God smote Nabal.

There is another Abigail-type woman who also interceded for a man that she one day hoped to marry. This woman (let's also call her Abigail for now) was initially attracted to a man that she eventually came to view as a misguided, bragging, arrogant demagogue. She later felt she had to come behind this man (let's call him Nabal for now) and smooth over everything he did or said.

If Nabal said it was 100 degrees, she would say no it was only about 85 degrees. if he said the distance was five miles she would say, no it was only about two miles. It seems everything Nabal esteemed as exceptional, Abigail always esteemed at a much lower value.

At about ninety-three, Nabal finally died. He never married Abigail. In fact, they grew to loathe each other's company in the later years. They could never agree on anything it seems. She always viewed him as pompous and arrogant, and he viewed her as a very worldly woman. Yet in his will, Nabal left Abigail in possession of all of his wealth, property and the copyrights to his works.

After his death, Abigail tried to remove all contributions that Nabal had made in life. He had written several books making fantastic claims that she thought were sheer nonsense. She was a very out-going person and did not like to offend anyone. She sought everyone's approval, even the enemies of this man she once claimed to love.

She held the copyrights to Nabal's works and refused to publish them and would not let anyone else publish and distribute these works. She even began writing on the same subjects that Nabal use to write on and called in experts to give her the expertise so her writings would be accepted by the respected intellectuals and scholars of the world.

What she didn't realize is that what she was trying to write about, had been written many centuries earlier and that her thoughts and approach to the subjects were the same thoughts and approach that the world had taken about 1700 years ago. She was just 1700 years behind where the world had already evolved to. The only response she got from the worldly people she was trying to impress was that she had finally seen the light and rejected the works of her wicked would-be husband -- Nabal.

WAKE UP, MEMBERS OF [the church that turned against Mr. Armstrong]!!

Nabal is how the current administration of [the church that turned against Mr. Armstrong] views Jesus Christ working through Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong for over fifty years in the Philadelphia Era of God Almighty's work on this earth!

Shame on you for trying to apologize to the world for Mr. Armstrong about his fantastic and accurate claim that man's ultimate destiny is to become God as God is God!

You are no Abigail! You are the same bunch of liberals who were thorns in Mr. Armstrong's side throughout his life. You played all your cards right at the end and tricked Mr. Armstrong into leaving the work in your hands that has given birth to the end-time Laodician Era.

Again, you are no Abigail! Your real name is Laodice! Named after the infamous assassin wife of the king of the North referred to in Dan 11:6. You, like the original Laodice went after her husband, are trying to destroy Jesus Christ and His Bride - God's True Church! Shame on you!

Again, I say, WAKE UP!! RETURN TO GOD BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!

=== end of letter ===
I will be praying you are lead out of this cult.
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