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Old 09-01-2012, 11:04 AM
 
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Shalom,
Tom
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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No one wants to be called an antinomian because antinomians are known as the bad guys of church history. Since only a few Christians know what an antinomian teaches, many will be shocked when they read the definition and discover that they are one.

antinomian, (from Greek anti=against and nomos=law) "One who holds that, under the gospel dispensation, the moral law is of no use or obligation, faith alone being necessary to salvation." (Webster's Collegiate)


The moral law is defined as:

"The Decalogue [The ten commandments] and the moral maxims of the Mosaic law" (Webster's 20th Century)



As you can see, the fact is that anyone who says that a Christian is under no obligation to obey the ten
commandments for salvation is an antinomian teacher.



Antinomianism is a spiritual cancer which has eaten away the heart of modern Christianity. All that is left is a weak and sickly counterfeit dressed in fine clothing. Unrepentant sinners love this sin-filled fake which softly promises that "faith alone is necessary to salvation". What a lie!

Jesus said:

"If you would enter life KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS"
(Matthew 19:17)

Only Satan, "the father of liars" would boldly contradict the very words of Christ and call it Christianity. The simple truth is that Jesus never said: "If you would enter life, have faith." He said - keep the commandments!.

Down through the pages of history, the leaders and teachers in the true church have fought this doctrine of Antinomianism which teaches that a Christian can continue to commit sin and still inherit eternal life.

From the time of Adam and Eve, Satan's plan has always been to trick men and women into disobeying the laws of God. That is what makes him the enemy of God. Think about it, if Satan were to teach people that they must keep the ten commandments in order to inherit eternal life he would be saying the same thing as Jesus.

On the contrary, Satan's "antinomian" teachers say that as far as salvation is concerned, Christians have no obligation to obey any of God's ten commandments. They insist that we are saved by grace --plus nothing.

This lie of Satan can take many subtle forms and is sometimes difficult to pin down. But there is one question that will always expose the true source of someone's doctrine. If you are not exactly sure what a teacher believes about salvation, ask him this question:

Can a Christian continue to deliberately break any of the ten commandments (including the sabbath) and still inherit eternal life?

Anyone who says "Yes" is teaching antinomianism, whether he knows it or not. The truth is that Christians must cease from all willful sin in order to inherit eternal life. The good news is that through the power of the Holy Spirit, we can.
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:14 PM
 
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No one wants to be called an antinomian because antinomians are known as the bad guys of church history. Since only a few Christians know what an antinomian teaches, many will be shocked when they read the definition and discover that they are one.

antinomian, (from Greek anti=against and nomos=law) "One who holds that, under the gospel dispensation, the moral law is of no use or obligation, faith alone being necessary to salvation." (Webster's Collegiate)


The moral law is defined as:

"The Decalogue [The ten commandments] and the moral maxims of the Mosaic law" (Webster's 20th Century)


As you can see, the fact is that anyone who says that a Christian is under no obligation to obey the ten
commandments for salvation is an antinomian teacher.



Antinomianism is a spiritual cancer which has eaten away the heart of modern Christianity. All that is left is a weak and sickly counterfeit dressed in fine clothing. Unrepentant sinners love this sin-filled fake which softly promises that "faith alone is necessary to salvation". What a lie!

Jesus said:

"If you would enter life KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS"
(Matthew 19:17)

Only Satan, "the father of liars" would boldly contradict the very words of Christ and call it Christianity. The simple truth is that Jesus never said: "If you would enter life, have faith." He said - keep the commandments!.

Down through the pages of history, the leaders and teachers in the true church have fought this doctrine of Antinomianism which teaches that a Christian can continue to commit sin and still inherit eternal life.

From the time of Adam and Eve, Satan's plan has always been to trick men and women into disobeying the laws of God. That is what makes him the enemy of God. Think about it, if Satan were to teach people that they must keep the ten commandments in order to inherit eternal life he would be saying the same thing as Jesus.

On the contrary, Satan's "antinomian" teachers say that as far as salvation is concerned, Christians have no obligation to obey any of God's ten commandments. They insist that we are saved by grace --plus nothing.

This lie of Satan can take many subtle forms and is sometimes difficult to pin down. But there is one question that will always expose the true source of someone's doctrine. If you are not exactly sure what a teacher believes about salvation, ask him this question:

Can a Christian continue to deliberately break any of the ten commandments (including the sabbath) and still inherit eternal life?

Anyone who says "Yes" is teaching antinomianism, whether he knows it or not. The truth is that Christians must cease from all willful sin in order to inherit eternal life. The good news is that through the power of the Holy Spirit, we can.
Yes,
The good news is that through the power of the Holy Spirit, we can .... by faith
Romans 3:20
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law;

John 6:29
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

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Old 09-01-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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Can a Christian continue to deliberately break any of the ten commandments (including the sabbath) and still inherit eternal life?


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Yes,
The good news is that through the power of the Holy Spirit, we can .... by faith
Then you call God a liar...for He says:

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Let us take pains, therefore, to enter that rest, lest we fall in the manner of those who were not persuaded. Hebrews 4:11

Hebrews 3:18 And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed?

Hebrews 4:6 It still remains that some will enter that rest, and those who formerly had the gospel preached to them did not go in, because of their disobedience.

2 Peter 2:6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;

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Rormans 3:20

Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law;
Amen !

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Originally Posted by twin.spin
John 6:29

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
...and Amen !

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Old 09-01-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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Antinomianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Discussion encouraged.

Shalom,
Tom
I'll just post this and leave it at that.

Excerpt:

Question: "What is antinomianism?"

Answer: The word antinomianism comes from two Greek words, anti, meaning "against"; and nomos, meaning "law." Antinomianism means “against the law.” Theologically, antinomianism is the belief that there are no moral laws God expects Christians to obey. Antinomianism takes a biblical teaching to an unbiblical conclusion. The biblical teaching is that Christians are not required to observe the Old Testament Law as a means of salvation. When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He fulfilled the Old Testament Law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15). The unbiblical conclusion is that there is no moral law God expects Christians to obey.
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Old 09-01-2012, 01:14 PM
 
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Yes,
The good news is that through the power of the Holy Spirit, we can .... by faith
Romans 3:20
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law;

John 6:29
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

Hi


Just checking:


Verna said: “Can a Christian continue to deliberately break


You said (with my insert to be clarified by you): “Yes, The good news is that through the power of the Holy Spirit, we can {{{???continue to deliberately break ????}}} ....by faith




Are you saying we can continue to deliberately break God's law through His own power … ?????

Heb 10:26-29 HCSB+ For if we deliberately sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,[27] but a terrifying expectation of judgment, and the fury of a fire about to consume the adversaries.

[28] If anyone disregards (present tense) Moses' law, he dies without mercy, based on the testimony of two or three witnesses.


[29] How much worse punishment, do you think one will deserve who has trampled on the Son of God, regarded as profane the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and insulted the Spirit of grace?

Please clarify.
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Old 09-01-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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No one wants to be called an antinomian because antinomians are known as the bad guys of church history. Since only a few Christians know what an antinomian teaches, many will be shocked when they read the definition and discover that they are one.

antinomian, (from Greek anti=against and nomos=law) "One who holds that, under the gospel dispensation, the moral law is of no use or obligation, faith alone being necessary to salvation." (Webster's Collegiate)
I wonder, if these were the typr that Peter was talking about when he said, 'they twist the word unto their own destruction'...
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Old 09-01-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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I'll just post this and leave it at that.

Excerpt:

Question: "What is antinomianism?"

Answer: The word antinomianism comes from two Greek words, anti, meaning "against"; and nomos, meaning "law." Antinomianism means “against the law.” Theologically, antinomianism is the belief that there are no moral laws God expects Christians to obey. Antinomianism takes a biblical teaching to an unbiblical conclusion. The biblical teaching is that Christians are not required to observe the Old Testament Law as a means of salvation. When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He fulfilled the Old Testament Law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15). The unbiblical conclusion is that there is no moral law God expects Christians to obey.
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So those who are trying to earn their way to heaven and reject the Gospel of Grace of Jesus Christ which is the only way one can obtain salvation would be an "antigraceite".
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Old 09-01-2012, 02:35 PM
 
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Hi


Just checking:


Verna said: “Can a Christian continue to deliberately break


You said (with my insert to be clarified by you): “Yes, The good news is that through the power of the Holy Spirit, we can {{{???continue to deliberately break ????}}} ....by faith




Are you saying we can continue to deliberately break God's law through His own power … ?????

Heb 10:26-29 HCSB+ For if we deliberately sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,[27] but a terrifying expectation of judgment, and the fury of a fire about to consume the adversaries.

[28] If anyone disregards (present tense) Moses' law, he dies without mercy, based on the testimony of two or three witnesses.


[29] How much worse punishment, do you think one will deserve who has trampled on the Son of God, regarded as profane the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and insulted the Spirit of grace?

Please clarify.
That passage really drives the point home. It's talking about how bad it was when Israel was under the law for those who willfully broke it. Contrasted with how much worse it is for someone now under the Gospel of Grace to reject it and try to go back under the law, trampling the Son of God in doing so. This is what we have been trying to teach some on here all along. The scripture backs us up 100% on this.

Praise God!

Thank You!
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Old 09-01-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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Does anyone really accept the Bible?

Gal 5:4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

There it is. If your trying to follow the law you are not in Christ. Why not come to Christ? Why do you fight Him?
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