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Old 09-21-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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I'm not surprised that you consider yourself in the right. No one would say that they are wrong..


Peace,
brian
LOL! you're a man of peace man... GOD bless you
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:47 AM
 
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LOL! you're a man of peace man... GOD bless you
Yes, peace. Because there's no point in trying to reason with people who talk about unreasonable things. The "rapture" is completely unreasonable. Jesus promised that we would have tribulation in the world. But that we are to trust in Him. "Stop the world, I want to get off" has never been part of God's plan, imo. Jesus went to the cross, and all Christians should be willing to do the same. After all, if they "follow Jesus," then they know where the path leads: not into the clouds, but unto the cross.

How many Christians today are willing to follow Jesus all the way to the cross?? I'd say very, very few.


All that is part of why I consider any "rapture" to be spiritual, not literal.

Still, I'm fine with you believing in a physical rapture. I just think you're misled.


Peace,
brian
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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Most believe that all that are of the body of Christ in the true church will be caught up. Justification is 100 percent set apart from our ability to merit it. God looks at the heart though. It very well could be that many that go to church on Sunday are in for a big surprise. Not because they weren't good enough, but because they never received Christ as their Lord and Saviour. None of us are good enough. Empty religious rituals don't please God nor can they save.


So true, many do not even speak "Jesus is Lord" of their life and the Savior of their soul.

Many will say Lord, Lord and not even know Jesus.

A true test only spoken by the Spirit, Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings!

God Bless,
Mercy
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:16 AM
 
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Did anyone notice that we are in the Great Tribulation that Jesus spoke of and not that one made of only seven years. Look at the world and especially what has happened in the last 100 yrs. These are the "last days" but whosoever will call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved and then pray you will be found worthy to escape the failing of spirit that come upon those who do not look to Christ for help.
Also, is their anywhere in Scripture that the "great tribulation" is capped and even the "lake of fire".

To know and experience the sufferings of Christ is personal/spiritual tribulation.

God bless,
Mercy
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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I don't know who will be included in the Rapture, I just know if there is away out here alive I maybe interested
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:31 PM
 
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I don't know who will be included in the Rapture, I just know if there is away out here alive I maybe interested
Yes! and the way is via the promised Rapture! Faith is believing what we do not see yet... and the substance of that faith are the promises of GOD in the Bible - whose Author and finisher is Christ who declared that some who are living when He returns will not taste death... Wow!

How far would you go or how much are you willing to pay to come away alive to the next life?
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:38 PM
 
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[quote=ahigherway;26188077]Yes, peace. Because there's no point in trying to reason with people who talk about unreasonable things. The "rapture" is completely unreasonable. Jesus promised that we would have tribulation in the world. But that we are to trust in Him. "Stop the world, I want to get off" has never been part of God's plan, imo. Jesus went to the cross, and all Christians should be willing to do the same. After all, if they "follow Jesus," then they know where the path leads: not into the clouds, but unto the cross.

How many Christians today are willing to follow Jesus all the way to the cross?? I'd say very, very few.


All that is part of why I consider any "rapture" to be spiritual, not literal.

Still, I'm fine with you believing in a physical rapture. I just think you're misled.

No problem with me if you believe in a spiritual Rapture... Go ahead...

But as for me... the Word of God had revealed enough promises to claim to believe in a literal Rapture... and mind you, I do live carrying my cross daily - (that's the spiritual one) and following Jesus ... dying daily to my old nature - so that His nature will be lived in and through me... If it is He that lives in me now and my old self is dead... I don't have to die again but be ready for His return...

As for you, since you don't believe in a literal Rapture... then enjoy the Great Tribulation.

Peace
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:36 AM
 
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1Th 4:16-18 "For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words."
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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Yes, peace. Because there's no point in trying to reason with people who talk about unreasonable things. The "rapture" is completely unreasonable. Jesus promised that we would have tribulation in the world. But that we are to trust in Him. "Stop the world, I want to get off" has never been part of God's plan, imo. Jesus went to the cross, and all Christians should be willing to do the same. After all, if they "follow Jesus," then they know where the path leads: not into the clouds, but unto the cross.

How many Christians today are willing to follow Jesus all the way to the cross?? I'd say very, very few.


All that is part of why I consider any "rapture" to be spiritual, not literal.

Still, I'm fine with you believing in a physical rapture. I just think you're misled.

No problem with me if you believe in a spiritual Rapture... Go ahead...

But as for me... the Word of God had revealed enough promises to claim to believe in a literal Rapture... and mind you, I do live carrying my cross daily - (that's the spiritual one) and following Jesus ... dying daily to my old nature - so that His nature will be lived in and through me... If it is He that lives in me now and my old self is dead... I don't have to die again but be ready for His return...

As for you, since you don't believe in a literal Rapture... then enjoy the Great Tribulation.

Peace
"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. " John 16.33



Blessings,
brian
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:24 AM
 
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"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. " John 16.33



Blessings,
brian

Rev 7:14 And I say unto him, My lord, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they that come of the great tribulation, and they washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Blessings to you too
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