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Old 11-23-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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The wisdom of the world is bad wisdom ------Isaiah 64:6.

It's naturally against the wisdom of God---Jeremiah 10:23.

The wisdom of man is too carnal to accept water baptism for what it is----John 3:5.

It doesn't believe that water baptism came from God cause it's not suppose to---2 Cor. 4:3.

The wisdom of man is too carnal to accept Christian attire for what it is---1 Peter 3:3.

It's doesn't believe that Christian attire came from God cause it's not suppose
to---2 Cor. 4:3.

The wisdom of man is too carnal to accept a loving heart on God's terms---1 John 2:15.

It figures if you love the world and have no hate then you have the heart of God---1 John 2:15.

It loves mother and father more then God----Matthew 10:34-37.

It loves friends with alcohol parties more then God---1 Peter 4:1-4 and Matthew 10:34-37.

It loves company with anybody whether their a believer or not---2 Cor. 6.

The love of the world is not the love of God---1 John 2:15.

The love of the world is not just stealing and telling lies on people---John 8:32.

The love of the world is not just fraud and greed---John 8:32.

The love of the world is not just lusting after materialism and people---John 8:32.

It's worshipping the wisdom of man to be a good person--Jeremiah 10:23.

The love of the world is not just lusting after power and recognition--John 8:32.

It's worshipping the wisdom of man to be a Christian period---Jeremiah 10:23.

The wisdom of God makes you a Christian---Acts 17:28.

Water baptism has nothing to do with the wisdom of man---Jeremiah 10:23.

It has everything to do with the wisdom of God----John 3:5.

All the bible has nothing to do with the wisdom of man at all---2 Timothy 3:16.

It has everything to do with the wisdom of God---Matthew 4:4.

If God teach women church rules what man came up with that---1 Cor. 14:34-35 ?

If God teach contentment in prosperity what man came up with that---1 Timothy 6 ?

If God teach segregation with believers only what man came up with that---2 Cor. 6 ?

If God teach what a Christian marriage is what man came up with that---Romans 7:2-3 ?

If God is real complete on who a Christian is what man came up with that---John 8:31 ?

If God teach on absolute truth in all the bible what man came up with that---2 Peter 1:20-21 ?

If God teach on grace correctly what man came up with that---Romans 6:1 ?

If God teach on all the bible what man came up with old law ordinances on his own---John 1:17 ?

The love of the world is not just judging people to be self righteous---James 5:20.

It's self righteousness cause it feels it's unGodly to rebuke people with the bible if the
shoe fits---James 5:20 and Romans 10:2:3.

Only the wisdom of the world says demanding pay raises after 90 days is the thing to
do to be successful---Luke 3:14.

Only the wisdom of the world judges Christianity to be all merciful and legalless---Romans 6:1.

It doesn't believe all the bible is really legalism---2 Timothy 3:16.

The world has love but of another kind---1 John 2:15.

Christians have love but of another kind----Psalms 133:1.

One lover is centering their moralism with the wisdom of man only----Jeremiah 10:23.

The other lover is centering their moralism with the wisdom of God only---John 8:31.

Wisdom of man puts their moralism into 90% of the bible only---Romans 10:2-3.

Wisdom of God puts all the bible into living out moralism enough----2 Timothy 3:16.

Man didn't come up with tongue rules in the church God did---John 8:32 and ALL of 1 Cor. 14.

Man didn't come up with bible editing rules God did----John 8:32 and Rev. 22:18-19.

Man didn't come up with widow rules for Christians God did---John 8:32 and 1 Timothy 5:9.

God the only one that know what he doing with legalism---Jeremiah 10:23.

Legalism in God is how your a successful Christian---Acts 17:28.

Getting rid of some of the bible to be a Christian is a wisdom of man spirit---Romans 10:2-3.

Trying to get ahead of God with wisdom of your own is a devil spirit---Romans 10:2-3.

Legalism of man makes you a good person only---John 8:32 and Matthew 4:4.

It has a better idea of what grace is to make it---Romans 6:1.

It has a better idea of what sin is then God----Matthew 5:17-20.

It's bold enough to call sin violation of the 10 commandments only----Matthew 5:17-20.

It's bold enough to call holiness the 10 commandments only---Matthew 5:17-20.

Legalism of man is not all the wisdom of God cause it's carnal or philosophical in
origin with it's foundation with moralism----Matthew 4:4 and 2 Peter 1:20-21.

It makes 90% of the bible Christianity only----John 8:32 and Matthew 5:17-20.

Man did this not God----2 Timothy 3:16 .

Again the noble goal is not flattery and education only.

It's unity with 100% bible believers cause Christianity teaching is not divided theologically into
groups----Ephesians 4:5 and 2 Peter 1:20-21 and Psalms 133:1.

This never been the goal of apostle John nor Jesus--John 17:21 and Amos 3:3.

A good buddy meeting with lovers is not really the gospel of Jesus Christ---1 John 2:15.

A good buddy meeting with believers only is the gospel---John 8:31 and 2 Cor. 6.

It's not enough to believe if your a blood boaster only----Romans 6:1.

Christianity is centered around believing all the bible---John 8:31 and Matthew 4:4.

It's not enough to obey the 10 commandments only---Matthew 5:17-20.

It's not enough to have a loving heart only---1 John 2:15 and John 8:32.

Believing and living out all the bible is what Christianity really is---Matthew 4:4.

Studying to live out Christianity is the only way to live out Christianity enough---John 5:39.

Your best guess with a thought in your head is not the Holy Spirit---Jeremiah 10:23.

The bible is the total mirror to the heart of God in us---John 8:32 and 2 Timothy 3:16.

Our wisdom on what good prayer is is carnal not spiritual---John 17:9 and Romans 8:14.

Our wisdom on who to bring in the church is carnal not spiritual---Matthew 7:6 and Romans 8:14.

Our wisdom on what burial in water will do is carnal not spiritual---John 3:5 and Romans 8:14.

Our wisdom on what blood boasting is is carnal not spiritual---Romans 6:1 and Romans 8:14.

Our wisdom of what bible perfection is is carnal not spiritual----Matthew 4:4 and Romans 8:14.

Our wisdom on the short cut gospel today is carnal not spiritual---John 8:31 and Romans 8:14.

Our wisdom on how much of the bible is God is carnal not spiritual---2 Timothy 3:16 and Romans 8:14.

Our wisdom on whether jewelry wearing is okay or not is carnal not spiritual---1 Peter 3:3 and
Romans 8:14.

Our wisdom on whether saints can marry all kind of divorced people is carnal not
spiritual----Romans 7:2-3 and Romans 8:14.

Our wisdom on whether women can pastor and preach in the church is carnal not
spiritual----1 Cor. 14:34-35 and Romans 8:14.

Our wisdom on whether 10% of the bible is intrepreted by God or not is carnal not
spiritual---2 Peter 1:20-21 and Romans 8:14.

Being totally biblical gets you spiritual and not carnal----John 6:63 amd 2 Timothy 3:16
and Jeremiah 10:23 and Isaiah 64:6.

Absolute truth of all the bible is totally spiritual and not carnal---John 6:63 and
2 Peter 1:0-21 and Romans 8:14.

Good people can be carnal and not be spiritual----John 8:32 and Jeremiah 10:23 .

Carnal people are often 90% biblical and 10% philosophical with the bible--John 8:32 and John 8:31.

It's not a Pentecostal group to belong to---John 8:32 and Ephesian 4:5 and 2 Peter 1:20-21.

It's not a Catholic group to escape trivia commandments of the bible today--John 8:32 and Luke 4:4.

Trivia referring to water baptism today---John 3:5.

Trivia referring to Chrisitan attire today---1 Peter 3:3.

Trivia referring to Sabbath rest today---Hebrews 4.

Trivia referring to bible edit rules today---Rev. 22:18-19.

Trivia referring to contentment with your work wages today---Luke 3:14.

Trivia referring to marriage God's way----Romans 7:2-3.

Trivia means the other commandments of God today beside the 10 commandments and the 2
greatest commandments of the bible----Matthew 5:17-20.

Trivia referring to you correcting man with the bible if the shoe fits----James 5:20.

Trivia referring to you believing all the bible to be saved---John 8:31.

Trivia referring to you living out all the bible to be saved----2 Timothy 3:16.

Trivia referring to the least of the commandments of God----Matthew 5:17-20.

Least of the commandments would not be the 613 old law ordinances today---Ephesians 2:8.

Least of the commandments is talking about Ephesians 2:9-10 today---John 8:32.

This confirmed in John 1:17------John 8:32 and 2 Timothy 2:15.

Ephesians 2:9-10 covers :

John 3:5
1 Peter 3:3
James 5:20
Romans 7:2-3
2 Peter 1:20-21
2 Timothy 3:16
1 Timothy 5:9
Rev. 22:18-19
Romans 6:1
John 8:31
1 Timothy 6
Luke 3:14
Luke 12:15
1 John 2:15
1 John 2:27
Galations 1:8-9
2 Cor. 6
Matthew 7:6
Titus 3:10
John 5:39
2 Timothy 2:15
Romans 12:3
John 8:24.
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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Sadly, there will be many people considered "good' in hell. It is only salvation through Jesus Christ that can save us. Our "righteousness" is as filthy rags. There is none among men that are good; no, not one.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:23 PM
 
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Sadly, there will be many people considered "good' in hell. It is only salvation through Jesus Christ that can save us. Our "righteousness" is as filthy rags. There is none among men that are good; no, not one.
What is "filthy rags" are acts done out of a selfish/non-loving motive.
Period.

Hell is a lie.

We were all made in God's image.
We are ALL God's children.
When we love, we follow the narrow path.
When we do NOT love, we are on the wide path.
Both paths are teaching us.
Both paths are necessary.
What falls on the narrow path (LOVE) leads to life.
What falls on the wide path (non-love) leads to destruction.
We are not being destroyed, only that within us which inevitably LEADS to destruction: NON-love.

We are here to learn.
We're all on the path to knowledge.
We're all brothers and sisters.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:03 PM
 
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What is "filthy rags" are acts done out of a selfish/non-loving motive.
Period.

Hell is a lie.

We were all made in God's image.
We are ALL God's children.
When we love, we follow the narrow path.
When we do NOT love, we are on the wide path.
Both paths are teaching us.
Both paths are necessary.
What falls on the narrow path (LOVE) leads to life.
What falls on the wide path (non-love) leads to destruction.
We are not being destroyed, only that within us which inevitably LEADS to destruction: NON-love.

We are here to learn.
We're all on the path to knowledge.
We're all brothers and sisters.
Yet, the Bible says differently. You went on a nice little screed there but you didn't quote a single Bible verse.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:34 PM
 
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It will truly be sad seeing all the book worshipers gagging and gasping for their empty words to save them from Truth's punishment.

The wisdom of the world is religion.
religion is naturally against the wisdom of Truth
the wisdom of a man is what john had.
water baptism is very important psychological component that religion uses, it doesn't believe the truth about it because its not supposed to.
religion is too carnal to understand secular attire for what it is, attire used to show off, just like religious attire is used to show off modesty or some empty version of it. To be truly modest you would need to be sad about what you wear.
God's terms aren't the terms of some creative writer or ink on paper, or idea in a human mind.

What is carnal is the Bible, what is carnal is seeking immortality, what is carnal is being pretentious, what is carnal is being hypocritical, what is carnal is trusting in ink, what is carnal is changing the world to your liking, what is carnal is praying for things you want, what is carnal is enveloping oneself in fantasy, what is carnal is religion and spirituality, which feed the carnal pretensions of human beings.

The bad wisdom of religion will not go unpunished if God is just,
but it will be forgiven, if God is merciful.

Which among you can move mountains?
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:48 PM
 
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Yet, the Bible says differently. You went on a nice little screed there but you didn't quote a single Bible verse.

Here you go:

John 5:39 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:48 PM
 
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The wisdom of religion will not go unpunished if God is just; but it will be forgiven, if God is merciful.


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Old 11-23-2012, 11:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by .sparrow. View Post
What is "filthy rags" are acts done out of a selfish/non-loving motive.
Period.

Hell is a lie.

We were all made in God's image.
We are ALL God's children.
When we love, we follow the narrow path.
When we do NOT love, we are on the wide path.
Both paths are teaching us.
Both paths are necessary.
What falls on the narrow path (LOVE) leads to life.
What falls on the wide path (non-love) leads to destruction.
We are not being destroyed, only that within us which inevitably LEADS to destruction: NON-love.

We are here to learn.
We're all on the path to knowledge.
We're all brothers and sisters.

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Yet, the Bible says differently. You went on a nice little screed there but you didn't quote a single Bible verse.
Quoting a verse does not make it so, you need comprehension.
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Old 11-24-2012, 05:25 AM
 
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Does (When) Bad Wisdom Takes Good People To Hell ?

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.... People don't care how much you know (wisdom) until they know how much you care. Sharing the gospel starts with caring.... AND that is what Jesus did

He even went farther as to lay down His life and die for YOU and your sin so that you may know the TRUTH and receive God's WISDOM, His precious gift of salvation through His Son, Jesus Christ rather then too be eternally separated from the Father !!

That is genuine "LOVE" in action !!

ETA: As the words from the wonderful old hymn Amazing Grace declare, “‘Tis grace hath brought me safe thus far, and grace will lead me home.”
Thank you, Jesus !!

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Old 11-24-2012, 07:09 AM
 
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No one can be "good' enough to escape judgment. No work of our own can save any of us. Only the forgiveness of our sins through Jesus Christ can save us. The Lake of Fire is not a lie.
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