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Old 01-07-2013, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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What do Christians think about non-Christians who live amongst Christians adapting to or borrowing and adapting Christian language?

Examples:

As an atheist Boy Scout, I felt I could recite the Scout Oath with a clear conscience (evidently the heads of the Boy Scouts organization disagree):

On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the scout law; to help other people at all times; to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally strait.

I felt I could do this with a clear conscience for the same reason I recited the pledge of allegiance, and used currency with, "IN GOD WE TRUST" on it. The word "God" through common usages in non-religious contexts (not all Americans believe in God, but most use money, and many say the pledge of allegiance) had changed the word "God," to mean: whatever you think rules the universe.

Now, the above, Christians were more or less responsible for in the United States. (That's one reason I'm confused why Christians don't more often have a desire for "IN GOD WE TRUST" to be removed from currency, and "God" to be removed from the pledge of allegiance...whereas atheists and agnostics wouldn't care. Rather, the reverse seems more often to be the case) However, non-Christians have done a bit of annexing too.

*Einstein, for example, said "I want to know God's thoughts." He was referring to the God of Baruch Spinoza rather than the God of Abraham though.

*"Demons," as in, inner demons, now refers to both literal demons and negative emotions, mentalities, and inner conflicts.

*"Bible" has been used so often in non-religious contexts that now it means, unless you say "the Bible," book. When someone says, "I've got a bunch of writer's bibles you can borrow," it means that person has many books instructing people how to write well. They aren't even necessarily helpful books on how to write well.

*"Soul" now refers to what someone believes the essence of someone, or the most important part of that person is. People who don't believe in the religious soul can still talk about their souls - examples: It sets my soul ablaze; my soul is free
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Doesn't bother me a bit. I know the difference. As for you swearing an oath falsely, of that's what you are claiming to have done, that is between you and God and the agency you swore under.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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As an atheist Boy Scout, I felt I could recite the Scout Oath with a clear conscience (evidently the heads of the Boy Scouts organization disagree)
I think the Boy Scouts is a bad organization because they will not let a kid join who is an Atheist.

That is why I never give any money to them or buy anything from them.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Doesn't bother me a bit. I know the difference. As for you swearing an oath falsely, of that's what you are claiming to have done, that is between you and God and the agency you swore under.
Sounds like a mature attitude.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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I think the Boy Scouts is a bad organization because they will not let a kid join who is an Atheist.

That is why I never give any money to them or buy anything from them.
I'm sure the troops will. They deal with the people as individuals and get to know them and such. I would see very few of them booting out someone for being an atheist. There may be some which would though.

I think it's when scouts start ascending to work with the national organization, or beyond their troop, and move under they eye of the Boy Scouts organizations' higher leaders that problems begin to develop.

I think they're a good organization, just imperfect, kind of like, you know how we call the generation that lined up to serve in WW2 the greatest generation? In my mother's small hometown there's a record of someone who volunteered. He said he wanted to fight because (and there is a written record of this) he wanted to "kill Japs." He wanted to kill Germans too, but mostly, he wanted to "kill Japs."

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