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Old 02-02-2013, 11:56 AM
Location: Somerset, Kentucky
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Webster says that testament means a covenant between God and man, a will. Doesn't that mean to make obsolete the Old and make something New? Does that mean to make the Old Testament obsolete and the New Testament the way, the truth and the life/light? Didn't God come to make things clear and new? Then why so many references to the Old if you trust in the New? Why would we need to cross reference if we have faith and believe in the words of Jesus?

n.1.(Law) A solemn, authentic instrument in writing, by which a person declares his will as to disposal of his estate and effects after his death.2.One of the two distinct revelations of God's purposes toward man; a covenant; also, one of the two general divisions of the canonical books of the sacred Scriptures, in which the covenants are respectively revealed; as, the Old Testament; the New Testament; - often limited, in colloquial language, to the latter. He is the mediator of the new testament . . . for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament.

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Old 02-02-2013, 01:38 PM
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The new covenant in Christ's blood is proven to be in accord or in harmony within the writings of the Old Testament. In other words, the writers of the Old Testament/Old Covenant also prophesied as to the sufferings of Christ etc.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:41 PM
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Jesus taught, "I have not come to abolish the law, but, to fulfill it." The 'Old' Testament is based on the law, while the 'New' Testament is based on Grace by faith in Jesus Christ. In this respect, the Law is like a schoolteacher that 'shows/teaches' us that we are unable to keep the law (and find righteousness and relationship with God through our 'law-keeping' prowess). This inability to keep the law, leads us to the realization that we are in desperate trouble and need some other way to be reconciled with a Holy, sinless God. ("If righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.")

Therefore, if one is still trying to find righteousness and forgiveness of sin through OT rule/law-keeping, merit, effort or works ... they remain justly convicted by the law of sin and death. But, under the New Testament covenant, If one has repented of their sin and believed on Jesus Christ, their sin is forgiven and they are born again in God's Holy Spirit "as a new creation in Jesus Christ" --- and are no longer condemned by the law.

Beyond revealing that a non-believer is a sinner, separated from God, the OT Law even plays a roll in the life of a forgiven, born-again believer. The law reveals to the believer when they are 'straying' from God's ways ... and need to repent and turn back to Christ.

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Old 02-02-2013, 04:05 PM
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Like God wrote His Last Will and Testament .....As it is a finished Works
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