You need no one to teach You / You have need for someone to teach You: Context!!!

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by DennisWayne

So because some man decided to call a group of books in your bible the Old Testament and some the New Testament you think that is all there is?

The "some men" you refer to were Church Fathers. So that is all you got out of that extensive post? The new covenant is in the NT and is specifically attributed to Christ . . . end of debate.

It is good that you recognize the difference between Law and Grace. That's a good start. But you must also recognize the future events have not happened yet.
Maybe we need to start a thread on the covenants of God.

I realize you have your mentors and "precepts and doctrines of men" that have preordained what should be future, what is past, etc., etc. Since the Bible is for our spiritual instruction and NOT historical . . . I would not consider those relevant concerns. There are only two covenants and we know what they are. No need to complicate matters . . . as so many seem to want to do.

[DennisWayne]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

The "some men" you refer to were Church Fathers. So that is all you got out of that extensive post? The new covenant is in the NT and is specifically attributed to Christ . . . end of debate.

1 Gen 6:18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons’ wives with thee.

2 Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

3 Exo 6:4 And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers.

And that does not even include the "New Covenant".

I realize you have your mentors and "precepts and doctrines of men" that have preordained what should be future, what is past, etc., etc. Since the Bible is for our spiritual instruction and NOT historical . . . I would not consider those relevant concerns. There are only two covenants and we know what they are. No need to complicate matters . . . as so many seem to want to do.

So far you are the only one quoting men. Then you claim I am promoting the "precepts and doctrines of men". Not even a good strawman tactic.

I notice you choose to ignore my question about when you became Israel! Since you are claiming their future promise for yourself today.