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Old 04-06-2013, 07:27 PM
 
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Christ never said his reign on earth will be interrupted-no. He said he will reign in his Fathers kingdom for ever.
Isn't 1st Cor. 15 v 24 plain that then comes the 'end' when he [Jesus] will deliver up the kingdom to God..... ?

Jesus hands back God's kingdom back to God at the end of the thousand years.- Rev. 20 v 6.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:38 AM
 
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Please post the verse condemning people to hell fire ________________

Revelation 20 vs 13,14 says the definition of the lake of fire is: second death.
All people buried at sea and all in death and hell [ sheol ] are 'delivered up' [ resurrected ] out of hell, then emptied-out hell is cast vacant into: second death.

There is no mention of hell fire but that vacant hell ends in: second death.
So, the final judgment for vacated hell is: second death.

The English words 'hell and hellfire' are from the Hebrew word sheol [ grave ] and Greek hades/haides.
The word 'hell fire' comes from another word: Gehenna
Gehenna was simply a garbage pit outside of Jerusalem where things were destroyed not kept burning forever.
So, Gehenna [ hellfire ] is a fitting term for: destruction.
That is why Psalm 92 v 7 can mention the final outcome for the wicked is being: destroyed forever.
Those who do not repent will 'perish' meaning: be destroyed. - 2nd Peter 3 v 9.
'Perish' [ destruction ] is what Jesus taught as the final outcome at John 3 v 16.
Rev 20 10:15.

Matthew, thanks for raising this up. No spirit dies. As God does not die, the spirit cannot die. What can happen is the soul dies, making it impossible for the spirit to incarnate back on earth. Eternal fire simply means everlasting punishment either on earth or in the spiritual plane.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:52 AM
 
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Please post the verse condemning people to hell fire ________________

Revelation 20 vs 13,14 says the definition of the lake of fire is: second death.
All people buried at sea and all in death and hell [ sheol ] are 'delivered up' [ resurrected ] out of hell, then emptied-out hell is cast vacant into: second death.

There is no mention of hell fire but that vacant hell ends in: second death.
So, the final judgment for vacated hell is: second death.

The English words 'hell and hellfire' are from the Hebrew word sheol [ grave ] and Greek hades/haides.
The word 'hell fire' comes from another word: Gehenna
Gehenna was simply a garbage pit outside of Jerusalem where things were destroyed not kept burning forever.
So, Gehenna [ hellfire ] is a fitting term for: destruction.
That is why Psalm 92 v 7 can mention the final outcome for the wicked is being: destroyed forever.
Those who do not repent will 'perish' meaning: be destroyed. - 2nd Peter 3 v 9.
'Perish' [ destruction ] is what Jesus taught as the final outcome at John 3 v 16.
Rev 20 10:15.

Matthew, thanks for raising this up. No spirit dies. As God does not die, the spirit cannot die. What can happen is the soul dies, making it impossible for the spirit to incarnate back on earth. Eternal fire simply means everlasting punishment either on earth or in the spiritual plane.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:09 AM
 
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The kingdom is being built up physically. It grows and grows till it overpower other kingdoms. It then means that there is only one doctrine, one love, direct from the kingdom. All other knowledge are inaccurate. To tie into this kingdom, one needs to be baptized of the Holy Spirit.

The times we are in now are perilous. All that has been written must come to pass. All the seals have been opened. The situation in the world will deteriorate until the world submits to God. For it was written: those mine enemies that would worship me bring them hither and slay them before me"

It was also said that in the time when the son of man comes the world would have no faith in him. So it has been confirmed with this our generation. The Son is here, the Holy Spirit is here, but do you know him?
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