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All won't be saved. That's been made crystal clear to you and the rest of the universalists here. But you keep on with that, nevertheless.
Fact is, those that believe will be saved -- because his blood was shed as a propitiation for our sin. Those that don't believe have been condemned already.
Vizio, is a Saviour one who saves or one who just offers salvation?
Scripture uses the word "propitiation", which means appeasement, or satisfaction, specifically towards God. Propitiation is a two-part act that involves appeasing the wrath of an offended person and being reconciled to him.
You do realize that God is not holding anyone's sins against them, or do you not realize that? The problem is the same as it was in the garden of Eden - man is trying to hide from God because he BELIEVES that God is angry. His guilty conscience makes him believe that God must be angry. But God has always been full of mercy and never desired a sacrifice other than a change of heart (godly sorrow) and a turning away from sin. I do think there is a judgement for those who die as rebels - but I don't believe it is anything like what is taught by those who teach eternal torment. That would only make sense if God were to be like a man holding an eternal grudge. It does not make any sense at all. Also, consider all the variables - all the ways people are deceived from understanding the truth - place of birth - life circumstances - having been abused by parents and others - God knows all of the factors that keep people in bondage to sin. He is FOR US, not AGAINST US. Those who know him now are very BLESSED indeed. Those who think they know him but misrepresent him to the world are still themselves deceived. If your news is not good news, it's not the truth.
You do realize that God is not holding anyone's sins against them, or do you not realize that? The problem is the same as it was in the garden of Eden - man is trying to hide from God because he BELIEVES that God is angry. His guilty conscience makes him believe that God must be angry. But God has always been full of mercy and never desired a sacrifice other than a change of heart (godly sorrow) and a turning away from sin.I do think there is a judgement for those who die as rebels - but I don't believe it is anything like what is taught by those who teach eternal torment. That would only make sense if God were to be like a man holding an eternal grudge. It does not make any sense at all. Also, consider all the variables - all the ways people are deceived from understanding the truth - place of birth - life circumstances - having been abused by parents and others - God knows all of the factors that keep people in bondage to sin. He is FOR US, not AGAINST US. Those who know him now are very BLESSED indeed. Those who think they know him but misrepresent him to the world are still themselves deceived. If your news is not good news, it's not the truth.
I agree with the bolded parts, just so you know where I'm coming from.
Now, do you remember what God did at the Garden of Eden? He sacraficed an animal to make them clothes to wear. What say you?
Finally, it seems to me that you are in disagreement with John 3. No?
Vizio, is a Saviour one who saves or one who just offers salvation?
Both ....
Jesus accomplished the objective: "Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world"
and Jesus who offers the subjective:
Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life.
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved
All the prophets testify about him that everyone whobelieves in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
I could have list many more such like verses where the scriptures says who \ whoever.
And this has been shown multiple times were the lie shows itself... universalism changes the subjective with the prostitution of the word "all" of 1 Tim 2:4.
Jesus does not say:
Very truly I tell you, everyone will believe and ALL has eternal life.
All the prophets testify about him that everyone willbelieve in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
It would be great is all would be saved , but many reject the promise of covenant to Lord Jesus , and the world there is evil and sin , so if all would be saved then there would Not be any evil or sin at all in the world , as sin is the sign that there are people who could be lost to God ................ Jesus had to die and rose against because of this Judgment of God against sin of man and his manipulator dark spirit authority , as in the Prophecy for the coming Lord Jesus before the cross of Christ in Isaiah 53: 10-12...............``Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him , he has put to grief when he will make His soul an offering for sin , he will see his seed, he will prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.... He will see of the labor of His soul, and will be satisfied, by His knowledge will my righteous servant justify man , for He will bear their iniquities ............There will I divide Him a portion with the great, and He will divide the spoil with the strong , because He has poured out his soul in to death, and he was numbered with the transgressors, and He bare the sin of many , and made intercession for the transgressors....``........ ..See it is Gods Judgments, that Jesus who was a sinner because of the two knives which he told Peter to have would be equal to the sin which He would take , as to bare their iniquities , as He did die an innocent man , were God would divide Him a portion with the Great, as He would be given a portion equal to God , as to be one with God ............... Where God is , sin is not .....
Scripture uses the word "propitiation", which means appeasement, or satisfaction, specifically towards God. Propitiation is a two-part act that involves appeasing the wrath of an offended person and being reconciled to him.
John 8 :24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
So if you do not believe in Jesus you will die in your sin and after you die you face judgment. Sound's like some will have to answer for their sins that God was willing to forgive.
How would it be possible to cover the enormous loss that Adam and Eve inflicted on all of us and to release us from slavery to sin and death? Well, by sinning, Adam lost the precious possession of perfect human life. Hence, he could not pass it on to his offspring. Instead, he could pass on only sin and death. And since a perfect human life was lost, no imperfect human life could ever buy it back. What was needed was a ransom equal in value to what was lost. So, what would cover the value of the perfect human soul, or life, that Adam lost? Another perfect human life was the “corresponding ransom” that was required.
God sent one of his perfect spirit sons to the earth. But not just any son. He sent the one most precious to him, his only-begotten Son and performed a miracle when he transferred the life of this Son to the womb of Mary. By means of God’s holy spirit, Jesus was born as a perfect human and was not under the penalty of sin. So In a sense, Jesus stepped into Adam’s place in order to save us. By sacrificing, or giving up, his perfect life in flawless obedience to God, Jesus paid the ultimate price for Adam’s sin and thus brought hope to us, Adam’s offspring.
So we should be deeply grateful to God for the ransom. This gift is especially precious since it involves a sacrifice of time, effort, or expense on the part of the giver. It is heartwarming to see that this gift is an expression of the giver’s genuine love, for God made the greatest sacrifice ever in providing it. "God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son," says John 3:16. The ransom is the most outstanding evidence of The Creator’s love for us. It is also proof of Jesus’ love, for he willingly gave his life in our behalf. The gift of the ransom should therefore convince us that God and his Son love us as individuals.—Galatians 2:20.
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