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Old 06-16-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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Matthew 5 or now I say unto thee.

Now I say unto thee is indicating present law today with former law edited and expired.

Grace today doesn't mean God has grace with the cross only and not animal offerings of old.

Truth today doesn't mean God has biblical truth in everything but the law by Moses---2 Tim. 3:16.

Referring to the intellectuals with talk on John 1:17 with grace and truth.

When Paul said the letter killeth but the spirit giveth life what was he saying ?

Paul wasn't saying God is not in the old law by Moses.

He actually saying God is in all the bible teaching----2 Timothy 3:16.

It's really about grace and truth in the new law vs. the old law by Moses.

Nothing about Paul is lawless cause of grace------Romans 6:1.

His strong stand against the law had to do with the law by Moses only today.

To be exact his stand is against the 613 old law ordinances by Moses only today.

Certainly Paul has a stand for the Sabbath teaching or one of the 10 commandments
today---Hebrews 4.

We find Paul staying a stand against adultery today or 1 of the 10
commandments----Romans 7:2-3.

The bottom line is Paul is a 10 commandments legalism preacher today.

He's a trivia law preacher today too on :

Modest living or 1 Timothy 6.

Women church rules or 1 Cor. 14:34-35.

Widow rules to marry people or 1 Timothy 5:9.

Christian segregation or 2 Cor. 6:14-17.

All the bible book by God or 2 Timothy 3:16.

Knowing strangers with all the bible or 1 Thess. 5:12.

Polygamy banned today or 1 Timothy 3.

Racial equality today or Galations 3:29.

Gender equality today or Galations 3:29.

Income status equality or Galations 3:29.

No more slavery today or Galations 3:29.

No free lunches to bums on the street or 2 Thess. 3:10.

Everybody under church government authority or Romans 13:1.

Tongue rules in the church or ALL of 1 Cor. 14.

Correcting people with the baptism of repentence teaching or Romans 11:29.

Modest attire and women church rules or 1 Timothy 2.

The bottom line is you can be a trivia law preacher and 10 commandments preacher and
still preach against the 613 old law ordinances by Moses at the same time.

Paul would say this is rightly dividing the word of truth -----2 Timothy 2:15.

The bottom line is you can be a 2 greatest commandments preacher and still preach against
the 613 old law ordinances by Moses at the same time.

Paul would say this is rightly dividing the word of truth------2 Timothy 2:15.

Matthew say if your not a trivia law preacher and believer today then your just as bad as somebody
preaching the 613 old laws by Moses to live out today----Matthew 5:17-20.

That mean it does you no good to oppose the 613 old laws by Moses if you discourage the idea
of living out :

John 3:5 or water baptism.

Hebrews 4 or the Sabbath for rest.

1 Peter 3:3 or modest attire.

2 Cor. 6 or Christian segregation.

James 5:20 or man correcting man with the bible.

Romans 6:1 or no blood boasting only.

Romans 7:2-3 or don't marry different divorcees period.

1 Timothy 5:9 or don't marry widow women under 60 period.

The issue is not no law by rather which law to obey today.

Against the purpose here is to attract 100% bible believers together only-----Psalms 133:1.

90% bible believers will fight with God over Matthew 5:17-20 all their life-----John 8:32.

No good to be a former drunk if we're a 90% bible believer only---John 8:32.
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Old 06-16-2013, 12:24 PM
 
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Tony,For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Which one are you Partisan to?.
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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Default Don't Compare The Law Of Moses To Other Biblical Legalism !!!

Other biblical legalism is the book today----Matthew 5:17-20.


Other biblical legalism today includes :

Matthew 5 or the 10 commandments revised in teaching.

Hebrews 4 or the Sabbath commandment.

1 Timothy 6 or modest living.

1 Peter 3:3 or modest attire.

Romans 7:2-3 or don't marry different divorcees.

2 Cor. 6:14-17 or Christian segregation.

James 5:20 or man correcting man with the bible.

John 8:31 or believing all the bible to be a believer.

1 Timothy 5:9 or don't marry widow women under 60.

1 Thess. 5:12 or know strangers with all the bible.

Matthew 7:6 or leave bible mockers alone.

2 Thess. 3:10 or don't support bums on the street.

1 John 2:15 or love not the company of unbelievers who make up the world.

Colossians 2:8 or don't take wisdom of God counsel from philosophical unbelievers.

1 Peter 4:1-4 or leave the alcohol party places alone.

1 Cor. 14:34-35 or don't encourage women speaking in the church.

1 Timothy 2 or don't encourage women church leaders and encourage modest attire.

John 3:5 or get water baptised to be born again.

Luke 3:14 or stop begging for a pay raise after 90 days of employment.

The only biblical legalism not for today is the law by Moses only-----John 1:17.


Again attracting 100% bible believers together ONLY----Psalms 133:1 and John 8:31.

The bottom line is clear 200% unless your an intellectual in the wisdom of man only-----2 Cor. 4:3.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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See Christians today can break the Ten Commandments that God gave to Moses , but they will have to take up the authority of the Blood of Jesus and rip the devil out who is given authority to curse people with liberalism who break these commandments , or they will have the liberalism ideas on their heart which they can keep along with the error of no love on the table before the Lord ... Still there blessing of ethics which may look like law which if you obey these ideas you will give honor to God and His Word which is a Worship , as they ideas will keep the devil away and God will be able to bless people , : like for example , God said in Deuteronomy 30 :19 .........``I call heaven and earth to record this day against you , that I have set before you life and death , blessing and curses , therefore choose life , that both you and your seed may live ...........See in a faithless belief this can be legalism , but if you see the curses of the spirit it would be wise to obey God Word here from the Old Testament .....See there are many ideas which the Lord brought in His beginnings which are still valid today for Christians which will not cross the line of Jesus sacrifice , and were God if you believe in faith these older promises , will still bless His children of God
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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Rest in the finished work of Christ and then holiness will manifest in your life. Believe that all of your sins have been punished and that God has saved you forever by the blood of Jesus. Religions are trying to finish a work that is already finished. If every believer knew what really happened at the cross we wouldn't have Christian religions today.
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:29 PM
 
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Rest in the finished work of Christ and then holiness will manifest in your life. Believe that all of your sins have been punished and that God has saved you forever by the blood of Jesus. Religions are trying to finish a work that is already finished. If every believer knew what really happened at the cross we wouldn't have Christian religions today.
Amen - but too much of an empire has been built on the platform of leading the people in man's ways.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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Amen - but too much of an empire has been built on the platform of leading the people in man's ways.
Yep. Religion has perverted the gospel so much.
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