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The whole concept of a Trinity is syncretistic, evolving from Pagan polytheism and Greek philosophy; it’s not pure and undefiled or without blemish.
Although, many would like it to be in order to justify the crucifixion of Christ, as a lamb slain from the foundation of the world to cover their sins.
What I find nonsensical are the creeds of men. Nowhere, did Jesus teach that he was part of a triune god.
His message was one of love, righteousness and salvation; rejecting the religious dogma of tradition.
I do hope this isn't going to devolve into a "I know you are but what am I??" non-discussion. It might be nonsense, but a one word response hardly demonstrates that. Got anything better? Facts? Sources?
The ecumenical movement toward a unifying doctrine of one world religion...namely this work of men referred to as the holy trinity...is nothing new. It began in the garden of Eden, where G-d put a stop to it. Another attempt was made by Nimrod at the tower of Babel, where G-d put a stop to it. Yet another attempt was made when Yeshua was being tempted into giving in to the spirit of ecumenism @ Matthew/Luke 4. This holy trinity is in fact unholy...a doctrine of demons...a work of men.
Yeshua proclaimed..."Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for the meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which The Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath G-d the Father sealed. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of G-d? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of G-d, that ye believe on him whom He hath sent." John 6:27-29 KJV
As scripture plainly declares, Yeshua did not burden us with any work greater than this...believe on him whom G-d hath sent.
So...no, absolutely not is belief in the doctrine of the trinity a requirement for salvation...if it were then the Grace of G-d would cease, the work of the cross would be pointless, and the self righteousness of each individual person would get one into G-d's presence apart from the atoning sacrifice of Christ.
"Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it:" Psalm 127:1 KJV
Strong or Weak Ecumenical council will not have the mandate from all to impose any doctrine on people , as their only role is to build ties for unity , not to make any doctrine the key to unity , as when you make doctrine the keys to unity then you will give rise to the spirit of antichrist , who builds disunity with divisions of doctrines .........See there are many scriptures which are the Word of God and God is sovereign, which say that there is a Spirit of God , and there is a Father God , and there is a Son of God ,and these three are one, and there are Scriptures which say if you fall to believe this it can be a grave error ..........Which one Scriptures is from Revelation 13:18 ..were Lord Jesus says that the number of the beast belief and authority will doom people from entering heaven , as the number for man who is God is 666, ..Where Gods true number is 3 in the trinity, not mans number 6 for the trinity ,
Mt 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
This simple command from Jesus clearly affirms and teaches the Doctrine of the Trinity. The Father is God. Therefore we are baptized into His name. The Son is also God, therefore one is also Baptized into Christ Jesus, for His life gives all Christians who have genuine faith in HIM life. And we are also Baptized into the name of the Holy Spirit, who is also God. (See Acts 5 for this.) God does not share his honor and worship with another who is not God. To worship a creation or a thing that is not God would be idolatry. Therefore, this instruction from Jesus, stating that all Christians should be baptized in all Three persons of the Trinity declares that all three persons are God.
The Trinity is who God is .... and that is the God who saves
2 Samuel 22:32
For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?
2 Samuel 22:47
“The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God, the Rock, my Savior!
Jesus (the Son) being called God:
1 Corinthians 10:1-4 our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed
through the sea. They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.
They all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from
the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
--- and as for the Holy Spirit being God
Job 33:4 The SpiritofGod has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Acts 5:3-4 Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit ... You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
and as others pointed out many times before:
All three Persons are associated together on an equal basis in numerous passages:
Jesus' baptism—Matthew 3:13-17 (voice of the Father, Son baptized, Spirit descending like a dove).
Salvation—1 Peter 1:2 (chosen by the Father, sanctified by the Spirit, sprinkled with the blood of Jesus).
Sanctification—2 Corinthians 13:14 (grace of the Lord Jesus, love of God, fellowship of the Holy Spirit).
Christian Baptism—Matthew 28:19 (baptized in one name, yet three Persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).
Prayer—Ephesians 3:14-21 (strengthened by his Spirit, know the love of Christ, filled with the fullness of God).
Christian Growth—2 Thessalonians 2:13 (chosen by God, loved by the Lord, sanctified by the Spirit).
The reason for the difference between those who do and those who do not is:
Romans 8:14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.
1 Corinthian 2:14
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
The books of the New Testament weren't necessarily written as in-depth exposes on doctrine. They were just a collection of early Christian writings that were accepted as being "canonical." Some were intended as biographies, others were pastoral epistles, and others as works of consolation encouraging fortitude in the face of persecution. Many questions concerning the nature of Christ, salvation, and the constitution of the Divine were still up in the air during the early years of Christianity. It wasn't until Constantine that Christian bishops were able to get together and able to make authoritative proclamations concerning doctrine.
Mt 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
^^ This ^^
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This simple command from Jesus clearly affirms and teaches the Doctrine of the Trinity. The Father is God. Therefore we are baptized into His name. The Son is also God, therefore one is also Baptized into Christ Jesus, for His life gives all Christians who have genuine faith in HIM life. And we are also Baptized into the name of the Holy Spirit, who is also God. (See Acts 5 for this.) God does not share his honor and worship with another who is not God. To worship a creation or a thing that is not God would be idolatry. Therefore, this instruction from Jesus, stating that all Christians should be baptized in all Three persons of the Trinity declares that all three persons are God.
^^ Does not say all of this ^^
In fact it comes nowhere close to saying all of that. It does clearly state the command to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. It is a clear inference that all three exist and are important, but it says absolutely nothing about their character, their relationship with one another, etc. It might give us the small victory of demonstrating that "there are three" but it does not definitively establish even that.
As to Acts 5 (the entire chapter?) you'll have to better explain what you are seeing there.
Perhaps the single biggest problem with proving the Trinity as absolute and incontrovertible is the fact that the word "Trinity" never actually shows up in the Bible. That does not make it an impossibility. It just means that we would need to find pretty clear and explicit language in the Bible describing what we already know the Trinity doctrine to be. Obviously it would would need to be pretty clear and leave absolutely no doubt.
Let me offer an example: "Jesus wept." So clearly, Jesus wept. This is clear and leaves no room for doubt. There is no room for the reader to say, "No he didn't!"
The Trinity is who God is .... and that is the God who saves
All three Persons are associated together on an equal basis in numerous passages:
The equilateral triangle or the so called three persons of the Trinity, existed within the god of the Babylonians amongst others; but not that of true Christianity or following Christ. At least NOT, until it was blended or mixed into it in an attempt to create a unified body with three-heads; reconciling all the various belief systems (B.S.) of the polytheistic religions. Including, that of Egypt!
"How they serve and worship their gods, so shall we?"
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