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How do you know that God is not what you'd consider barbaric and savage? What tells you that the nature of God is that he is Love?
Scripture does . . .but my certainty resides in my meditation experiences. The God consciousness I encounter is unconditionally loving and accepting . . . exactly as Jesus is described in scripture.
The love we have for our own children should be sufficient.
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Scripture does . . .but my certainty resides in my meditation experiences. The God consciousness I encounter is unconditionally loving and accepting . . . exactly as Jesus is described in scripture.
So neither one of you accept the Bible, but you claim to know who God is simply because of your feelings? How does that work? Suppose my own feelings tell me he's wrathful and judgmental? Who is right?
The love we have for our own children should be sufficient.
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Scripture does . . .but my certainty resides in my meditation experiences. The God consciousness I encounter is unconditionally loving and accepting . . . exactly as Jesus is described in scripture.
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So neither one of you accept the Bible
Did you read my post, Vizio. I said scripture says God IS love and the Bible describes Jesus so we could know the Father. How is that not accepting the Bible?
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, but you claim to know who God is simply because of your feelings?
Clearly you are not a meditator and have no clue what I am talking about . . . since you think it is mere "feelings."
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How does that work?
It didn't for over 18 years . . . but then it hit me like a ton of bricks and my atheism was erased instantly. I have described it in detail repeatedly within my many posts.
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Suppose my own feelings tell me he's wrathful and judgmental? Who is right?
I am because your undisciplined "feelings" have little to do with knowing God . . . especially since you are relying entirely on left brain intellectual processes and words "written in ink" instead of those "written in your heart.". Those who have developed the practice of sincere and devout prayer have similar experiences of God . . . but it takes significant practice and discipline over our right brain and autonomic processes to achieve the proper brain states..
So neither one of you accept the Bible, but you claim to know who God is simply because of your feelings? How does that work? Suppose my own feelings tell me he's wrathful and judgmental? Who is right?
I did this exercise earlier this year. They have their own theology. They are their own doctrinal support - or they are getting it from some spirit masquerading as an angel of light.
There is no way you will get them to move under those conditions.
So neither one of you accept the Bible, but you claim to know who God is simply because of your feelings? How does that work? Suppose my own feelings tell me he's wrathful and judgmental? Who is right?
Got a question for ya. You keep telling us that God is so loving, he just COULDN'T send a person to hell.
How do you know that? What do you base that on?
I can only speak for myself:
I do not say that God is too loving that he could not send a person to hell, God can do whatever pleases Him to do, if it pleases Him to send a person to hell, He could do so.
The point is, why should He do so and does the Bible teach it? I don't think so and have supported this view in great detail, e.g. in these threads:
Did you read my post, Vizio. I said scripture says God IS love and the Bible describes Jesus so we could know the Father. How is that not accepting the Bible?
Because the same Bible says that God is wrathful and that we must be saved from that wrath.
So neither one of you accept the Bible, but you claim to know who God is simply because of your feelings?
How does that work? Suppose my own feelings tell me he's wrathful and judgmental? Who is right?
Believing is predicated on what you feel, read or think about a subject, it's not that which you know in your heart through the Spirit.
Because you see everything from the mindset of emotionalism, you will believe what you believe; until you no longer believe it!
Because the same Bible says that God is wrathful and that we must be saved from that wrath.
No it does not say God IS wrathful. You just think it does. You are the god you believe in.
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