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Originally Posted by romans519
In my time of posting in this forum I have noticed there are those who defend a works based approach to salvation even when presented with overwhelming scripture that says otherwise. It is clear to me that those who believe this are content and feel secure in their belief. You make it clear that it is not our works or good deeds that save us but the "works of Christ" in and through us that inevitably result in salvation. With that being said, I would like to ask a question to those of you who hold on to this belief.
How many works or 'works of Christ' does it take to save us?
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First I will start off by saying that I don't believe in the doctrine of "Original Sin." As in my Theology it was Gods intention that we fall from grace for what ever reason unbeknownst to us. If you would like I can go into detail about my "Fall of Man" beliefs and my beliefs about the "Origin of Sin" but only if you are interesting in hearing it. So we are not condemned by Adams sin, we are condemned by our own Sin, by the evil that comes from within our hearts.
Now moving onto that question. We are judged based on our deeds and the intent behind those deeds.
The Law that we must follow is not necessarily the written Law and that is not the only thing which is considered by God, for example a person could be very pious but if they are arrogant and are only being pious to escape punishment(eternal torment) then those deeds don't count as good. The Intention behind our deeds are important, we should do a good deed not to be rewarded(Eternal Life) but to simply do good. We should not do good deeds to avoid punishment but should do good for the sake of doing good. Intentions are important, as well as taking responsibility for our actions when we miss the mark and fail. We are to learn from our mistakes and take responsibility for our actions. God presents us with opportunities to do good for others and if we take those chances then we get into good standing with God. We are asked to be Merciful and in exchange God shows us Mercy, an act of mercy is a good deed. We are asked to forgive others and in exchange God is more willing to forgive us our sins, Forgiveness is a Good deed.
We are to express love for each other and God by being accepting, compassionate, and non-hypocritical. We are not to judge people based on their appearance. "Love The Lord your God with all your heart and soul." Love All Others as you Love yourself." And I add that we should love ourselves because it is mighty difficult to love any one or any thing if you hate yourself. Love is the single act which is Good, to Love, to be Loving is a choice we make, it is this single Deed, this single thing that Saves us because from it all other possible Good deeds arise. If we Love others and God we will not want to harm them and we will be more apt to avoid sin. The power of Love can transform us and make us into good people worthy of Gods Mercy and Forgiveness.
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud."
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What if we die before all of our sin has been "put down in our flesh" as you say?
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What exactly do you mean by this phrase I've not heard it's utterance before?
I guess you mean what if we die before where "right with God?" Is that what you meant?
If it is then I will plainly say it depends on the person.
God weighs our hearts, the good against the bad. When the scale is in the favor of the good we move onto Paradise. When the scale is in the favor of bad it depends on by how much, if we where almost completely devoid of any good, if we where "Heartless" then we are sent into a realm known as the Void where we cease to Exists but that punishment is only for the truly evil. If our bad deeds outweigh our good but we did do some good in our life we Reincarnate. Most Souls Reincarnate, some move onto Paradise, some go to the void.
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What if we die before having the right amount of the "works of Christ" in us?
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The above statement covers this.
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How many "works of Christ" in us and through us does it take to save a soul?
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One Work, to be Loving in Nature. To be loving toward All, even our enemies. From Love comes all other good deeds thus to chose to be Loving is the ultimate deed it is the one thing which saves our soul. This is why we should listen to Christs teachings and try our best to follow them.
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Where is there rest and security if we have unfinished business with God?
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Do you think it is easy to chose to be Loving. A man could very well leave his home and abandon his children and wife when times get hard, but some men out of Love, a choice to Love stay home and they get through it.
No matter how much despair their is in your life,
No matter how much adversity you are facing,
God Loves you and his Son Loves you.
What sort of unfinished business are you asking about?
We are to confess our Sins Daily to God in private and to a trusted friend who won't belittle us.
God often times Forgives us if we just Confess openly that we have made a mistake, the feeling of relief that washes over you when your sin is off your chest and in the open can only be the Spirit of God.