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Old 12-15-2007, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Pretoria, South Africa
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Christmas because it is a pagan holiday? Any of you, or anyone you know of?

Actually i resently discover that Christmas is pagon holiday, accepted by christians years ago. these feast was the birh of the sungod nimrod.
Actually i do not know how to handle these day, as in our Christian family, everybody aspect us to celebrate with them, what must i teach my child about these day, i cannot lie to her telling that Jesus was born on these day, knowing it was a pagon god?
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:40 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Only tell your children the truth and nothing but the truth.
Tell your children that Jesus probably wasn't born that day, but that being merry and celebrating with family is not a bad thing either.
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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According to a professor I used to know, he stated that Jesus was born in what we know as the summer based on the reason Joseph and Mary were in Bethleham to begin with, it had something to do with returning to the village in which you were born and taxation if memory serves. Anyway this process can be traced by history and archeology and it simply was not in December.

Frankly I don't know why that should matter, seems a little legalistic too me to care.

I do think its important to understand where a celebration comes from rather then just swallowing what someone else hands you. Learn the history and the symbolism, drop the parts that don't fit your philosophy and emphasize the ones that resonate with you. For my daughter and I, we drop the religious symbols, we don't have a manger scene and so forth. We fully embrace the commercialism and the playful nature of the shopping, the sometimes excessive decorating and so forth.
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:08 AM
 
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And in the Old Testment God ordered people to be killed when they didn't rest on the sabbath. Why are not the JWs killing their members who work on the sabbath? After all you are using the Old Testment for your arguments against holidays.

Why don't the women cover their heads at church like the bible says?
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Pikeville, Ky.
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Only tell your children the truth and nothing but the truth.
Tell your children that Jesus probably wasn't born that day, but that being merry and celebrating with family is not a bad thing either.
I also explained to them that the Magi were not at the birth of Christ..It took them somewhere around two years to find the Child..
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:18 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I also explained to them that the Magi were not at the birth of Christ..It took them somewhere around two years to find the Child..
I didn't know that.
But does it really matter when they found the child?
The fact is that they found him and brought him their gifts.
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Pikeville, Ky.
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I didn't know that.
But does it really matter when they found the child?
The fact is that they found him and brought him their gifts.
No, Tricky, it matters very little to me....The reason I told my children this is because I like to add a little trivia into my conversations
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:29 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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I have read that Jesus was probably one or two when they found Him, but they did not give up in their search for Christ.
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:10 PM
 
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I am hearing so much legalism on this forum. It saddens me. Of course we all know there is a very big possibility that Jesus was not born on December 25. Without considering any historical data that would narrow the actual day down to this or that date, one can take the number of days in a year, put one over that, and find there is a very small chance that December 25 was actually the day Jesus entered the world as a human being.

But who cares. If it brings more people into Christian churches on that one day of the year and those churches wisely tell the bigger story of Jesus life (i.e., he came to die for you and for me), then I think Christ will be happy with that church.

I just want to remind all of us who are familiar with the Bible, Jesus made it real clear that what he hates above all else is our pride/arrogance and hypocrisy.

Instead of arguing about whether Christmas is of pagan origins, why don't we all use the day to bring focus on Jesus. And have some fun enjoying time with family and friends to boot :-)
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:13 PM
 
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Christmas because it is a pagan holiday? Any of you, or anyone you know of?
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I buy when I can afford it, not letting the calendar dictate it for me. I love winter vacation thou!
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