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Old 09-07-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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Remember she was never really dead. That's why they call this NEAR death experience. It is simply the mind reacting to the lack of oxygen and entering a dream state.
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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Remember she was never really dead. That's why they call this NEAR death experience. It is simply the mind reacting to the lack of oxygen and entering a dream state.
Possibly.

Or possibly - something else.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:40 PM
 
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Remember she was never really dead. That's why they call this NEAR death experience. It is simply the mind reacting to the lack of oxygen and entering a dream state.
This is usually the knee-jerk reaction skeptics give, no offense Faith, but it's true.

The only response one can make is that it has been proven beyond doubt by doctors and scientists that a person with no heart activity and brain activity can be declared legally "dead" (clinical death, like what you see when the doctors in the ER say, "I'm going to declare him. Anyone have any objections? Okay, time of death 5:45 PM"). That's when the monitor on the EEG goes flat. The person has "flat-linned"

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What does “brain death” mean?
Brain death is a legal definition of death. It is the complete and irreversible cessation (stopping) of all brain function. It means that, as a result of severe trauma or injury to the brain, the body’s blood supply to the brain is blocked, the brain dies and it cannot be revived. Brain death is death. It is permanent and cannot be reversed.

How is it decided that my loved one is brain dead?
A physician conducts the required medical tests to make the diagnosis of brain death. These tests are based on sound and legally accepted medical guidelines. Testing is done to prove that your loved one has no brain reflexes and does not breathe on his/her own.
In order for these people to be studied by doctors like Bruce Greyson, Pim van Lommel, Jeffrey Long, etc. who specialize in NDE's they must have been in a state where they could be declared "legally dead"--that is, "no brain activity". But the chemical and reacting to lack of oxygen thing doesn't explain how they are able to give accurate accounts of what was said and who was doing what to whom while they were "legally dead" and after being revived or reviving on their own.

Really, Faith, if you choose to dismiss these experiences out-of-hand without so much as a second thought, then you're basically doing the ostrich-poking-its-head-in-the-sand---choosing to turn away from what could be the truth about these experiences because uncovering some uncomfortable facts that might challenge your accepted Christian dogma on these matters might prove to be disconcerting. That's the primary reason skeptical Christians say, "Well, there's nothing to these things and that's the end of it".
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