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He did not say, you have seen it written, but rather it was what they said/interpretation of what was written that Jesus corrected.
MT 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
The only things passed are the temporary ordinances that were revealed to be such by the New Testament.
But even today, when it is read a veil covers the heart.
2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains, when the old covenant is read.
It has not been removed, because only through Christ is it taken away.
I don't think anyone would disagree the persona of the god portrayed in the Old Testament is completely different than that as portrayed in the New Testament.
In the Old Testament there appears to be the pre Moses and the post Moses God. The one commandment even states that he is a jealous God.
In addition one needs to refer to the original language script portrayed in the Bible.
Take the word, Elohim. The -im ending means that it is plural, like cherubim and seraphim. Elohim means "gods", not "god". That means an accurate translation would read:
“In the beginning, the gods created heaven and earth.”
That is contrary to what most Christians believe. You have both EL and Yahweh being portrayed in the Old Testament. In fact, there is some evidence that the ancient semetic languages work closely enough related that Elohim and Allah have the same origins. There is a little question that other gods were in the picture. Certainly Baal was recognized, as the commandment said should there be no other gods before you - meaning Yahweh.
Let's not forget the settings. These were desert wondering tribesmen whose neighbors were desert wondering tribesmen. Each of course thought their God is the superior one. The Middle East still exist tribalism to this date.
From what I recall the use of Elohim is a grammatical construct that carries the meaning of plural of majesty or the royal "we." It's a linguistic mechanism to show greatness, prominence, rank and/or stature. The Hebrew language has this linguistic mechanism but not every language, notably English, has linguistic mechanisms like this. For those familiar with Spanish, Catalan, Galician, etc this concept is not so foreign as these modern day languages and likely others as well also use linguistic mechanisms to show varying degrees of politeness, respect, etc in recognition of one's stature or familiarity.
Also, Greek has no plural of majesty so that this verse in the Greek Septuagint is translated as o Theos (Romanized Greek) meaning God (not Gods). The Greek Septuagint was used by Greek speaking Jews and Christians alike. I would think that those ancient scholars who translated it in that time period would be well versed in Greek and Hebrew and correctly translated the scripture to read "in the beginning God made the heaven and the earth."
OP, You have made a correct observation. After Adam and Eve sinned, God Almighty stopped dealing directly with man. He dealt with man via angels, many of whom have their peculiar idiosyncracies. Hence you notice that in the old testament the Angels like Jehova revel in animal sacrifice and were quick to kill.
That is why we need caution when we read the old testament. For instance you are told that Moses saw God, but the new testament clarifies that he collected the tablet from an angel. Jesus's testimony that no man had seen God at anytime validates my post. If they communed with God, why did Christ need to come?
It has been said that the Bible really shows three different gods. Two in the Old Testament and the one of the New Testament.
As the topic suggest do you believe that that God is one, or that that God has changed in the New Testament?
It is said pigs can fly too.
The 3 or even 2 God's approach, is just an inattempt at reconciling the issues to our perspective to get the big picture. It's also guilty of trying to cram an entity that existed before our reality, (Therefore must see things differently than we do) into a box that works withIN our reality. It's quite hubristic when ya think about it.
If I can't understand something beyond my understanding, then it must be wrong. harumph!
OP, You have made a correct observation. After Adam and Eve sinned, God Almighty stopped dealing directly with man. He dealt with man via angels, many of whom have their peculiar idiosyncracies.
Interestingly enough, after the sin of Adam, GOD SOUGHT ADAM OUT, Adam was the one that fled God. God stood there with Adam after the sin.
And, I think most folks who have done the study, would contend that the "Angel of the Lord" you see mentioned so many times, wrestling Jacob, speaking with Abraham, etc... was the Word before it became manifest as Jesus who became the Christ.
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