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Old 10-07-2013, 08:27 PM
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So you don't know.
You mean, you don't want to acknowledge that I do.

It's much easier to cling to preconceived notions than it is to actually think - n'est ce pas?

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Old 10-07-2013, 08:32 PM
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I would argue that Paul had created his own gospel, ignoring the gospel of Jesus.
Many disciples did not trust Paul , and rightly so.
He never left off being a Pharisee, setting aside "The law" to establish his own law .
Though he knew of the Holy spirit's job to teach the believer, he circumvented God, making him self the divine authority rather than directing believers to seek God for instruction.
Notice John writes a warning to this effect. 1John 2; verses 20,-27, in particular.
Paul's influence corrupted the gospel in the disciples, teaching God compromising with sin adding a term "grace", Jesus never taught, when plainly Jesus requires repentance.
Paul did not repent ,he merely added Jesus to his philosophical list, and rewrote a gospel of his own to fit his agenda.
Even Peter noted that Paul's teaching had controversy.
Paul's claim to an education is the distortion the disciples had to deal with . Plus Paul was writer ,not even all of his writings made the bible either. Later manuscripts were found in Albania.
This does not make him an authority, it makes him an egocentric.
He even stated a condemnation for conflicting with HIS gospel .
Every letter of Paul starts with His name, ,None of the disciples did that.
While Paul said eating the meat offered to idols is nothing, Jesus in Revelation had some very sharp words to that effect.
Many of you folk claim to be well read of the bible, but seem to miss all this in justification and protection of something you worship.
It is not the Bible you should be worshipping, but God .
If you call Jesus Lord, but do not obey Him ,what is that called ?
Jesus reprimanded the disciples for the same thing.
Jesus said the Holy Spirit would teach the same things Jesus taught , but Paul went about teaching things Jesus did not say nor are His character .
If you Faith is based on the knowledge of the word, rather than a relationship with God ,How will you explain your self to God come judgment day, knowing He had so costly provided the Holy Spirit to teach in His place ?
Nonsense. Here's what Peter said about Paul:

2 Peter 3

Our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:34 PM
 
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Those weren't god's words - they are the words of a wannabe man. A man who can't feel important unless he lessens the status of women.
In other words - a weak man and a fool to boot.
And only weak, foolish men cling to those words as truth.
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How do you know that?
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Because I'm not an idiot.
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So you don't know.
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You mean, you don't want to acknowledge that I do.
It's much easier to cling to preconceived notions than it is to actually think - n'est ce pas?
The psychology is quite clear on this issue, jimmie . . . although TroutDude has added "fool" to the description making it a bit more negative than it is. It is an immature posture . . . desiring and establishing status differentials between husband and wife based on some external authority. Our skills and abilities define our status differentials, period.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:35 PM
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You mean, you don't want to acknowledge that I do.

It's much easier to cling to preconceived notions than it is to actually think - n'est ce pas?

What you said was your opinion. Scripture says otherwise, and gives a reason why. When dealing with these matters, Scripture trumps personal opinion.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:37 PM
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What you said was your opinion. Scripture says otherwise, and gives a reason why. When dealing with these matters, Scripture trumps personal opinion.
So sayeth all who prefer not to think for themselves.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:39 PM
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The psychology is quite clear on this issue, jimmie . . . although TroutDude has added "fool" to the description making it a bit more negative than it is. It is an immature posture . . . desiring and establishing status differentials between husband and wife based on some external authority. Our skills and abilities define our status differentials, period.
Husbands and wives? Why are you changing the subject?

Scripture gives a reason why women should not teach men. You can argue with that if you want.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:42 PM
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So sayeth all who prefer not to think for themselves.
I'm an educated adult, who can think clearly. I made a conscience decision to become a Christian, and to believe:


2 Timothy 3
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:46 PM
 
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Husbands and wives? Why are you changing the subject?
Scripture gives a reason why women should not teach men. You can argue with that if you want.
Come on, jimmie . . . it is part and parcel of the same cultural bias that leads to the husband wife distinction. Christ is the head of man, man is the head of woman, etc. ad nauseum.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:01 AM
 
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Only Adam and those made in the image of the God and after his likeness are allowed to speak the Word, if you were born of the Spirit and the Word you would have no need for a man or a woman to teach you, but the Spirit will teach you the Holy Word of God.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:55 AM
 
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Those weren't god's words - they are the words of a wannabe man. A man who can't feel important unless he lessens the status of women.

In other words - a weak man and a fool to boot.

And only weak, foolish men cling to those words as truth.
You can deny Gods words if you wish. But you cannot change them. You don't get to pick and choose the parts of what God has said. It's not up to you. Your not a god. This is what some people who use God as a crutch when it fits their need do. This is not accepting God but setting up ones one false god to suit their desire to reject what God has said.
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