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Luke 15:1-10
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
The Lost Sheep
15 Now all the tax collectors and the sinners were coming near Him to listen to Him. 2 Both the Pharisees and the scribes began to grumble, saying, “This man receives sinners and eats with them.”
3 So He told them this parable, saying, 4 “What man among you, if he has a hundred sheep and has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open pasture and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 When he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
The Lost Coin
8 “Or what woman, if she has ten silver coins and loses one coin, does not light a lamp and sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? 9 When she has found it, she calls together her friends and neighbors, saying, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found the coin which I had lost!’ 10 In the same way, I tell you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”
Luke 15:1-10
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
The Lost Sheep
15 Now all the tax collectors and the sinners were coming near Him to listen to Him. 2 Both the Pharisees and the scribes began to grumble, saying, “This man receives sinners and eats with them.”
3 So He told them this parable, saying, 4 “What man among you, if he has a hundred sheep and has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open pasture and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 When he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
The Lost Coin
8 “Or what woman, if she has ten silver coins and loses one coin, does not light a lamp and sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? 9 When she has found it, she calls together her friends and neighbors, saying, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found the coin which I had lost!’ 10 In the same way, I tell you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”
I know, by gawd that I have the Spirit telling me what is the truth. So, if you don't believe me, you don't have the Spirit, so you aren't saved/christian/whatever.
Let's go make ANOTHER denomination....
If it's the spirit telling you the truth, it' easy to check by the fruit. I think we are going to have to form an new denomination by arguing over the meaning of the only authority, the Bible, like everyone else.
GOD RELIES ON NOTHING, HE's OMNISTINKINGPOTENT. That means he relies on nothing, he's all powerful.
Show me free will. Don't give me some corndog opinion of why you think it's there. Show me in the Bible.
NOTE: having a choice isn't free will. If I control what you can choose, I control where you go. No matter what your will is, I control where you go.
You enter a hall way (part of life)
To the left are three doors with different dangers behind each one. Mountain line, on fire, radioactive fall out.
Free will is to survive.
Once in the hall you can't go back (backwards in time)
The end of the hall is an indiana jones, spiked collapsing wall trap. You have to make a choice or surely die.
You can turn left or left or left. and die die die.
Your have freedom to choose.
That is not free will.
God is sovreign.
God gives us the LIBERTY to make a choice between serving Him or not. Liberty IS free will, but free will is not FREEDOM. Freedom is making the RIGHT choice if you are a believer.
GOD RELIES ON NOTHING, HE's OMNISTINKINGPOTENT. That means he relies on nothing, he's all powerful.
Show me free will. Don't give me some corndog opinion of why you think it's there. Show me in the Bible.
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God is sovreign.
Calm down, Xian. Sovereignty means just that . . . so when God gives Dominion to us on the earth by His Sovereign Will . . . how do we exercise that Dominion? We all know that we are ALWAYS bound by God's laws . . . both physical and spiritual. But within the constraints of those laws . . . how do we exercise our Dominion over the earth without free will within those constraints?
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