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Old 10-06-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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A discussion about salvation. Is it something YOU do or something HE does, or both?

I'll start the chat with this question...... " who parted the red sea, God or Moses?"
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:44 PM
 
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A discussion about salvation. Is it something YOU do or something HE does, or both?

I'll start the chat with this question...... " who parted the red sea, God or Moses?"
Salvation was accomplished for you by Jesus. When you choose to believe in Jesus, God gives you a new heart and you are born again. This is something God does to you, after making a choice. Our part is only to choose to believe or not in what Jesus has already done for us.
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:56 AM
 
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Monergism/Synergism A discussion about salvation. Is it something YOU do or something HE does, or both?

I'll start the chat with this question...... " who parted the red sea, God or Moses?"
Hmmm. Let's see, you give us:
HE>>Monergism/Augustianism/Calvinism
both>>Synergism/Arminianism/Semi-Pelagianism
Where does YOU fit in?? Pelagianism??
Or possibly YOU don't fit in anywhere!
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Old 10-07-2013, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Clanton, AL
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A discussion about salvation. Is it something YOU do or something HE does, or both?

I'll start the chat with this question...... " who parted the red sea, God or Moses?"
God parted the Red sea in response to the faith Moses placed in Him evidenced by accepting His word and acting upon it.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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God parted the Red sea in response to the faith Moses placed in Him evidenced by accepting His word and acting upon it.
Yes. Likewise, God saves those who believe in Him, and place their faith in Him.

God to Moses: Raise your staff and stretch out your hand over the sea to divide the water so that the Israelites can go through the sea on dry ground. I will harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they will go in after them. And I will gain glory through Pharaoh and all his army, through his chariots and his horsemen.

Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and all that night the LORD drove the sea back with a strong east wind and turned it into dry land.

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Old 10-07-2013, 05:47 AM
 
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I find it very interesting that God said this to Moses at the shores of the Red Sea

Then the LORD said to Moses, "Why are you crying out to me? Tell the Israelites to move on.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:46 AM
 
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Another interesting question would be "what difference would it make?"
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:52 AM
 
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Well then how do you explain what happened to St. Paul when he was struck down on the road to Damascus? He was on his way to killing more Christians.

quote=romans519;31704997]Salvation was accomplished for you by Jesus. When you choose to believe in Jesus, God gives you a new heart and you are born again. This is something God does to you, after making a choice. Our part is only to choose to believe or not in what Jesus has already done for us.[/quote]
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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Well then how do you explain what happened to St. Paul when he was struck down on the road to Damascus? He was on his way to killing more Christians.

quote=romans519;31704997]Salvation was accomplished for you by Jesus. When you choose to believe in Jesus, God gives you a new heart and you are born again. This is something God does to you, after making a choice. Our part is only to choose to believe or not in what Jesus has already done for us.
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You don't believe Paul accepted Jesus as the Christ at that point? I believe he did and he showed it by faith which we see from his doing what Jesus told him to do.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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At that point yes. But Before Jesus appeared to Paul, he was well-known as a persecutor of Christians. So, sometimes things happen to us..outside of personal choice.

You don't believe Paul accepted Jesus as the Christ at that point? I believe he did and he showed it by faith which we see from his doing what Jesus told him to do.[/quote]
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