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Old 10-08-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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Ohio Court Rules Amish Girl With Leukemia Must Resume Chemotherapy Over Parents Wishes

The court ruling appointing a guardian reverses a lower court decision. Medina County Judge John Lohn had twice denied the limited medical guardianship request by Schimer.

The court ruled for the best interests of the child.

Some psychologists believe that religious fundamentalism, in some cases, is a mental illness. I agree.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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Good for the court.

I also disagree with religious fundamentalism.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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Of course religious fundamentalism with Christianity is Not mental illness, were mental disorder is atheism ............ Sure if a child under the protection of parents who are Christian is physically ill then the grace of God through Lord Jesus is in lacks , and if the child does not receive a healing from Lord Jesus , In a timely manor then the Doctors should be called and do the best that they can .......... See like the child is ill if leukemia which is under the Spiritual authority of Gland disruptor demons , as the blood is ill and blood transfusions should be done , If Jesus was protecting the child then leukemia would not be there , no matter if Jesus is capable to heal the body of the child , as the faith to receive healing from Jesus is lack .... I believe that both faith and expectation in the grace of God through Lord Jesus, and Doctors are needed is the best guarantee for success
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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Of course religious fundamentalism with Christianity is Not mental illness, were mental disorder is atheism ............ Sure if a child under the protection of parents who are Christian is physically ill then the grace of God through Lord Jesus is in lacks , and if the child does not receive a healing from Lord Jesus , In a timely manor then the Doctors should be called and do the best that they can .......... See like the child is ill if leukemia which is under the Spiritual authority of Gland disruptor demons , as the blood is ill and blood transfusions should be done , If Jesus was protecting the child then leukemia would not be there , no matter if Jesus is capable to heal the body of the child , as the faith to receive healing from Jesus is lack .... I believe that both faith and expectation in the grace of God through Lord Jesus, and Doctors are needed is the best guarantee for success

You prove my point exactly. Thank you for the post.
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Old 10-08-2013, 08:56 PM
 
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As a parent, I do not even understand how some people decline to do everything possible for their child.
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Old 10-09-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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As a parent, I do not even understand how some people decline to do everything possible for their child.
Yes. I think that's where it becomes a mental problem. Talk about a crime against nature . . .

I also think that our civilization is moving in a certain direction and there is emerging a wider and wider gap between fundamentalists and the world that most dwell in. Most fundamentalism is frozen in time a long while ago. Often the Orthodox of whatever religion are really curious about the outside world.

It really upsets me to see such groups limiting the education of their children making it so hard for them to survive outside of their group. Some home schooling advocates seem to be treating their children as captives and I guess they are.

It seems to me, if their life is so good, they would not fear so much their children choosing to leave.
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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Ohio Court Rules Amish Girl With Leukemia Must Resume Chemotherapy Over Parents Wishes

The court ruling appointing a guardian reverses a lower court decision. Medina County Judge John Lohn had twice denied the limited medical guardianship request by Schimer.

The court ruled for the best interests of the child.

Some psychologists believe that religious fundamentalism, in some cases, is a mental illness. I agree.
Moderator cut: delete..how do you KNOW that's it's in the best interests of the child. Apparently the child is veeery sick after such treatment. Can the hospital (and courts) GUARANTEE that the chemo won't hasten the childs death? Can they guarantee that the child will live a long life afterwards? I doubt it. The parents should have the rights in this case to choose whatever treatment they want...it's THEIR child...if I were them I'd leave the country pronto. I don't consider religious fundamentalism to have anything to do with these parents making their own informed choice on what they feel is best for their child..I consider it a kind of social mental illness that it's seen as OK to dictate what kind of treatment someone WILL have...whether they like it or not.

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Old 10-09-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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I've seen miracles where they were needed, and also when those prayers went unanswered.

Tough choice, when your allegiance is something the world around you doesn't understand. Blessed is he who's not offended...
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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While I do not agree with not using the medical treatment that God has given to man, I also agree that the parents did nothing wrong. They have every right to follow their religion in this country and if seeking medical treatment for their child violates that religion they have every right to refuse and no crime is committed. The State (society) has a responsibility to step in in such cases and temporarily take custody of the child and order the treatment and afterwards return the custody to the parents who have done no wrong. It's been going on in this country for a long, long time. Everyone has done the right thing is sounds like in this case.
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:05 PM
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Some psychologists believe that religious fundamentalism, in some cases, is a mental illness. I agree.
As do I, wholeheartedly.
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