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Old 10-14-2013, 06:40 AM
 
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Where does it state to worship on HaShabat?...
4th Commandment.............day of rest.
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:43 AM
 
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Based on the threads title and Ezek. 8:16's reference to the 25 men who were prostrating themselves eastward toward the sun, are you making the assumption that worshiping on Sunday is worshipping the sun? If that is the case, then why not make the assumption that worshipping on Saturday is worshipping the Roman god Saturn?

At any rate, the first 24 chapters of Ezekiel concern God's judgment on Judah while chapters 25-32 deal with God's judgment on other nations, and chapters 33-48 refer to the restoration of Judah. There is no basis for attempting to apply Ezekiel to the church.

Also, when Christ returns at the end of the Tribulation, the church, having been wedded to Christ in heaven (Revelation 19:7-8) while the Tribulation is taking place on earth, will return with Christ.

There is if one believes in replacement theology....
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:50 AM
 
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There is if one believes in replacement theology....


Chrisitanity is replacement theology.
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:55 AM
 
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Explain why Christmas emulates the pagan celebrations of the revival of the sun from the winter solstice. Explain why to this day easter is set by the first moon after the spring equinox. Explain why christians have adapted the pagan customs of Christmas trees and yule logs?

What about all the festivals and feasts that Israel observed?...
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:56 AM
 
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The Covenant of Circumcision

17 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to him and said, “I am God Almighty[p]; walk before me faithfully and be blameless. 2 Then I will make my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers.”

3 Abram fell facedown, and God said to him, 4 “As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations. 5 No longer will you be called Abram[q]; your name will be Abraham,[r] for I have made you a father of many nations. 6 I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you. 7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 8 The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.”

9 Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”

15 God also said to Abraham, “As for Sarai your wife, you are no longer to call her Sarai; her name will be Sarah. 16 I will bless her and will surely give you a son by her. I will bless her so that she will be the mother of nations; kings of peoples will come from her.”

17 Abraham fell facedown; he laughed and said to himself, “Will a son be born to a man a hundred years old? Will Sarah bear a child at the age of ninety?” 18 And Abraham said to God, “If only Ishmael might live under your blessing!”

19 Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac.[s] I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. 21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year.” 22 When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him.

23 On that very day Abraham took his son Ishmael and all those born in his household or bought with his money, every male in his household, and circumcised them, as God told him. 24 Abraham was ninety-nine years old when he was circumcised, 25 and his son Ishmael was thirteen; 26 Abraham and his son Ishmael were both circumcised on that very day. 27 And every male in Abraham’s household, including those born in his household or bought from a foreigner, was circumcised with him.







One what day did this covanent end?
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:57 AM
 
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What about all the festivals and feasts that Israel observed?...


We observe all the Holy Days.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:00 AM
 
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Genesis 35:10
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.




Israel is a people, the descendants of Jacob.
The ten northern Tribes.

Israel is NOT a nations state, never was.



When did Israel cease to exist? What day?
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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What about all the festivals and feasts that Israel observed?...


We observe the Holy Days.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:07 AM
 
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From:Pagan Roots? 5 Surprising Facts About Christmas | LiveScience
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Cupper I realize this is not an all encompassing answer to your question, but hope it helps.

Passover is the remembrance of the passing over of the Angel of Death and not their liberty from slavery from Egypt, that is another celebration which I can't remember at the moment...

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Old 10-14-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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From:Pagan Roots? 5 Surprising Facts About Christmas | LiveScience
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Cupper I realize this is not an all encompassing answer to your question, but hope it helps.


pa·gan /ˈpāgən/

noun a person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.

[from Church Latin pāgānus civilian (hence, not a soldier of Christ), from Latin: countryman, villager, from pāgus village]


[Middle English, from Late Latin p g nus, from Latin, country-dweller, civilian, from p gus, country, rural district; see pag-in Indo-European roots.]

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