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Old 08-20-2016, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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But many religions do teach there are different levels of heaven and one is placed on a certain level based on their terrestrial life.
I don't know of "many" that teach that. I can only think of one offhand. Do you know of others? At any rate, it would certainly make sense to me that greater obedience and faithfulness will lead to greater rewards, not to mention that fact that Jesus did say that He intended to reward every man according to his works.
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Old 08-20-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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I don't know of "many" that teach that. I can only think of one offhand. Do you know of others? At any rate, it would certainly make sense to me that greater obedience and faithfulness will lead to greater rewards, not to mention that fact that Jesus did say that He intended to reward every man according to his works.
And he showed the reward would be the same in the illustration of the paid workers in the field. They worked different hours yet received the same pay.
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Old 08-20-2016, 05:35 PM
 
Location: New England
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Just the fundamentalists and all the ones under the age of consent ?.
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Old 08-20-2016, 05:56 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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And he showed the reward would be the same in the illustration of the paid workers in the field. They worked different hours yet received the same pay.
A big YES !!!!

And Jesus revealed that it is free and by faith ... nothing else.
".. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." Rev 22:17 KJV

"And he [Jesus] said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace." Luke 7:50 KJV
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Old 08-20-2016, 05:59 PM
 
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Raised a Christian, it's been years since I went to church, but I remember always hearing that only a very, very small number of people will go to heaven and this number includes everyone who ever existed. that sounds like playing the lottery, so I will go to hell I guess. Ever thought of what would happen if you are a faithful Christian, go to church, read the bible, but in the end you still go to hell? Why? Simply because you weren't holy enough.
Sounds like you heard a poorly adaptation of what scriptures teaches.
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Old 08-20-2016, 06:49 PM
 
Location: New England
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A big YES !!!!

And Jesus revealed that it is free and by faith ... nothing else.
".. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." Rev 22:17 KJV

"And he [Jesus] said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace." Luke 7:50 KJV
Blind fundamentalist.... Her faith saved her from missing the mark not her ass from frying. Going in peace is the path of all who are saved from what the letter condemned us for, the same letter the blind fundamentalists use to beat the world up with.
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Old 08-20-2016, 07:06 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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I don't know of "many" that teach that. I can only think of one offhand. Do you know of others? At any rate, it would certainly make sense to me that greater obedience and faithfulness will lead to greater rewards, not to mention that fact that Jesus did say that He intended to reward every man according to his works.

I have heard of 2--3 that teach various levels of the kingdom will be accessible by those who are found more worthy that others. One I remember has now closed the door on the highest level claiming the spots are filled and that there is no way they can be displaced from the select.

Where are the 7 levels of Heaven
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Old 08-20-2016, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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And he showed the reward would be the same in the illustration of the paid workers in the field. They worked different hours yet received the same pay.
I don't interpret that the same way you do. They worked different hours, yet they were both equally faithful in serving their employer once they were called to do so. If some of the workers (regardless of what time of day they were hired) had neglected their responsibilities for three or four hours out of the day and had just loafed around while the others around them were hard at work, I doubt their employer would have felt the need to pay them all equally. If a person who accepts the gospel of Jesus Christ late in life is true and faithful to his Savior for the years he has remaining, I believe that he will have the same reward as someone who was a Christian from an early age. I don't think that's the same thing as saying that the Lord doesn't care about our efforts to follow Him and keep His commandments, and that we're all going to receive the same reward regardless of how we lived our lives.
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Old 08-20-2016, 09:27 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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How many will go to heaven?

Apparently, I responded to this question earlier but I forget what I said.

In any event, I want to change whatever I said previously to my current answer - which is 11.
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Old 08-20-2016, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I have heard of 2--3 that teach various levels of the kingdom will be accessible by those who are found more worthy that others. One I remember has now closed the door on the highest level claiming the spots are filled and that there is no way they can be displaced from the select.
Okay, if you say so. I don't believe God has put a cap on how many people will be considered "the elect," but that's just my opinion.
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