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Old 10-17-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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Biblically we are in the period of the gentile.

What God is allowing man to understand is that man cannot govern himself.

Yes, I believe we are interring a time similar to Noah.



We home school. We have grown children but we also have a son who will be 8 years old next month. Nothing is hidden from him.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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For an alternate perspective, consider Stephen Pinker's book, "The Better Angels of our Nature". In it he uses violence as his metric and shows that on a per capita basis the level of violence in the world has decreased by many orders of magnitude. You are far less likely to die at the point of a sword, or be the victim of violence than at almost any point in history.

My hunch is that for most metrics, we would see similar per capita reductions. I am sure there are some "bad thing" metrics, but then the other issue is defining the bad things. For example, which society is better, one that has strong independence for women and a higher degree of sexual permissiveness, or a culture with a strong tendency toward lifelong monogamy, but physical spousal abuse is winked at or sanctioned? These are not easy questions, and ultimately is depends on your idea of a utopian society as to whether you think we are progressing toward it, or hurdling away from it...

-NoCapo
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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We are living in the darkest time in human history but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with religion and everything to do with cold hard science.

It's called global warming, or more specifically global climate change and in 80 years or sooner it is going to radically change the face of this earth like no other event in human history, except maybe the great comet strike in the Yucatan that wiped out the dinosaurs.

Temperatures are going to soar an average 5-7 degrees by the end of the century. We have experienced barely a half a degree rise in the last 20 years but in those 20 years we have seen average temperatures rise so high that we have recorded the hottest years on record. This climate change is responsible for the worst floods and fires across the world since the last ice age.

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“We are heading for somewhere that is far off from anything we have seen in the past 10,000 years – it’s through the roof. In my mind, we are heading for a different planet to the one that we have been used to,” said Jeremy Shakun of Harvard University,
Scientists believe what we are headed for is a major kill-off that could literally wipe out 95% of humanity. A small pocket might survive but life in this brave new world will be primitive like the Stone Age.

That is why these are dark times. They have nothing to do with satan.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:13 PM
 
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We are living in the darkest time in human history but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with religion and everything to do with cold hard science.

It's called global warming, or more specifically global climate change and in 80 years or sooner it is going to radically change the face of this earth like no other event in human history, except maybe the great comet strike in the Yucatan that wiped out the dinosaurs.

Temperatures are going to soar an average 5-7 degrees by the end of the century. We have experienced barely a half a degree rise in the last 20 years but in those 20 years we have seen average temperatures rise so high that we have recorded the hottest years on record. This climate change is responsible for the worst floods and fires across the world since the last ice age.



Scientists believe what we are headed for is a major kill-off that could literally wipe out 95% of humanity. A small pocket might survive but life in this brave new world will be primitive like the Stone Age.

That is why these are dark times. They have nothing to do with satan.


You do realize this will happen? Have you read Revelation? This is the Father's plan.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:31 PM
 
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For an alternate perspective, consider Stephen Pinker's book, "The Better Angels of our Nature". In it he uses violence as his metric and shows that on a per capita basis the level of violence in the world has decreased by many orders of magnitude. You are far less likely to die at the point of a sword, or be the victim of violence than at almost any point in history.

My hunch is that for most metrics, we would see similar per capita reductions. I am sure there are some "bad thing" metrics, but then the other issue is defining the bad things. For example, which society is better, one that has strong independence for women and a higher degree of sexual permissiveness, or a culture with a strong tendency toward lifelong monogamy, but physical spousal abuse is winked at or sanctioned? These are not easy questions, and ultimately is depends on your idea of a utopian society as to whether you think we are progressing toward it, or hurdling away from it...

-NoCapo
I think that is the ultimate deception of it all.. It would seem from the humanist perspective that we are "progressing" toward a utopia... The modern conveniences of life.. the technological advances having machines replacing the laborer.. UN-enforced World "peace".. From the humanist perspective, all of these things are good..or at least getting better.

But those who have a Biblical understanding see how much of things have not been good or been getting better. In Matthew 24 Jesus states Evil times will wax worse and worse .. I think that is what we are witnessing.. think about the capability of those that are in positions of power with the technology at their fingertips. Networking sites all linked together with e-mail... "update" posts by GPS to some facebook account.. Resume's posted on Monster, etc that have work history, references, etc.. Medical records explaining your entire medical history, food preferences, allergies, etc.. All nicely available in digital format for copy and paste into some database.

Someone did make a great point regarding the Dark Ages.. Nothing sadder than people thinking they have the Word of God but it being held captive by the Religious professionals taking advantage of them..

We DO have the Word of God readily available more than any other generation.. so times may be dark but God has provided us His light to look to.

Look at the world and we'll sink.. we just need to keep our eyes focused on the Lord... just like Peter sinking when he took his eyes of Jesus and started looking at the waves.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:44 PM
 
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Drive down the road and see a huge billboard of some porn shop or gentleman's club.. Universities broadcasting the humanist psychological smart person "scientific" perspective working undermine the Biblical account. A culture that feels that building casinos are a viable solution to help the economy while production jobs go elsewhere.

We live in such dark times..
Those are your examples of darkness?

Only in America do people shake their fingers at casinos (which do, in fact, keep people employed, fed and housed) while the very real horrors of child prostitution, mass starvation and refugee camps aren't even mentioned.

You are one of the luckiest people in the history of the planet if your idea of darkness is seeing a billboard for a strip club. Got a bed? Food in the cupboard? TV? Winter coat? Public library? Can you go to the church of your choice on Sunday? Vote? Educate your child? If so you might not want to complain about all that darkness you're seeing to a child in Darfur. He'd think you'd lost your mind.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:57 PM
 
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Those are your examples of darkness?

Only in America do people shake their fingers at casinos (which do, in fact, keep people employed, fed and housed) while the very real horrors of child prostitution, mass starvation and refugee camps aren't even mentioned.

You are one of the luckiest people in the history of the planet if your idea of darkness is seeing a billboard for a strip club. Got a bed? Food in the cupboard? TV? Winter coat? Public library? Can you go to the church of your choice on Sunday? Vote? Educate your child? If so you might not want to complain about all that darkness you're seeing to a child in Darfur. He'd think you'd lost your mind.
That poor child in Darfur might just be the co-heir of Christ's Kingdom..

James 2:5

Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
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Old 10-19-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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That poor child in Darfur might just be the co-heir of Christ's Kingdom..

James 2:5

Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
That's a wonderful thought. But it does absolutely NOTHING to stop the very real suffering of a child in a refugee camp. Or his mother's. (Who has a good chance of getting raped - repeatedly - on her way to get water.)

Again. If your idea of darkness is having to look at a particular billboard or drive past a casino....congratulations! You won the birth lottery! MILLIONS of people would trade places with you in a nano-second.

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Old 10-19-2013, 11:51 PM
 
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Every generation has people who think they are living in the darkest time in history. This is common. Count your blessings.
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:53 AM
 
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"We live in the darkest time of human history"

I'm pretty sure everyone who lived through the Shoah (Holocaust) would disagree with you.
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