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Old 10-20-2013, 01:25 AM
 
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You do realize this will happen? Have you read Revelation? This is the Father's plan.
I swear to you on a stack of error-riddled Bibles that satan, antichrist, the two witnesses and the beast will never make an appearance during the next 85 years. And all that other misinterpreted malarkey in Revelation will never come to pass they way prophecy gurus are pumping it up on Christian TV stations to make a few bucks on your dime.
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Old 10-20-2013, 04:58 AM
 
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Just like the world cries `its man fault for climate change ``, as the glaciers and the polar ice melts more away in the summer months .... Jesus said in Matthew 5: 45 ..``Father which is in heaven make the sun rise of the evil and the good , and sends rain on the just and the unjust ``....is the key to the climate change question is that God has held His hand back by the sin in the world and the rain is slowed which in turn the snow has slowed which is needed for the glaciers of Europe to survive and the polar ice to develop , See it is the lack of rain which God is holding back because the sin which is rampant
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:38 AM
 
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I swear to you on a stack of error-riddled Bibles that satan, antichrist, the two witnesses and the beast will never make an appearance during the next 85 years. And all that other misinterpreted malarkey in Revelation will never come to pass they way prophecy gurus are pumping it up on Christian TV stations to make a few bucks on your dime.

In case you did not know, Revelation is the revealing of Jesus himself to John.

There is no misinterpretation.

It says what it says.

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Old 10-20-2013, 05:40 AM
 
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Just like the world cries `its man fault for climate change ``, as the glaciers and the polar ice melts more away in the summer months .... Jesus said in Matthew 5: 45 ..``Father which is in heaven make the sun rise of the evil and the good , and sends rain on the just and the unjust ``....is the key to the climate change question is that God has held His hand back by the sin in the world and the rain is slowed which in turn the snow has slowed which is needed for the glaciers of Europe to survive and the polar ice to develop , See it is the lack of rain which God is holding back because the sin which is rampant

You are correct. The birth pangs the earth is preparing for is the destruction brought on by Christ himself.

Global warming is part of the grand delusion.
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:30 AM
 
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Remember that it is said Jesus will seperate the sheep from the goats ?On should not be supprized that there is so much animosity here , a lot of throwing pearls before swine ,they certianly do turn and rend you. The compromised and ungoldy are going to take offence ,like with most modern man wish to compromise God to fit their own agenda . I think we are noticing more of an attack against christians per say, because of the innernet coverage that we might not have had years ago . Times are always dark ,but many of us that have been living in a peaceful world, a bit sheltered ,are now being made more aware of what all is going on and it looks worse because we are more aware of it. I am not diminishing the concern . The fact we are being focused on in the attack and enemy is rallying their efforts could lead to a very dark time in deed.. It is likely that all the assistance churches that have been helping folks around the world is going to come to an end soon .I know several churches that donate people medicines and aid to people in need every where , but with the econemy colapsing and jobs falling off,people arn't able to give like they did a while back. Missionary efforts which are very different have begun to decline because support is weak as well. This once strong nation is being brought down by curruption liars and cheaters, that vote in liars and cheaters and now are disgruntled by them . When the ungodly loose their rights having abused their rights,and the world lives in fear, it will be too late to reverse it again. This will be a third world country the way NATO want's it. See Agenda 21, how closely it matches with what is goning on. You can't make this stuff up. they are srious. Certainly the earth and activity in space is becomming more agressive at least to those that have been tracking these progressions of solar and volcanic activity , not to mention the tsunamis that have occured recently and the stall of the gulf stream in the atlantic and so many other events that are going on in our life time , it can be over whelming. While all this is going on, the bright side of this is that some folk are getting more serious about their relationship with God , in sted of looking for excuses ,actually seeking to be obedient in the tutelage of the Holy Spirit ,and that's a good thing. So though things are going bad in some areas, there is hope .
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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Remember that it is said Jesus will seperate the sheep from the goats ?On should not be supprized that there is so much animosity here , a lot of throwing pearls before swine ,they certianly do turn and rend you. The compromised and ungoldy are going to take offence ,like with most modern man wish to compromise God to fit their own agenda . I think we are noticing more of an attack against christians per say, because of the innernet coverage that we might not have had years ago . Times are always dark ,but many of us that have been living in a peaceful world, a bit sheltered ,are now being made more aware of what all is going on and it looks worse because we are more aware of it. I am not diminishing the concern . The fact we are being focused on in the attack and enemy is rallying their efforts could lead to a very dark time in deed.. It is likely that all the assistance churches that have been helping folks around the world is going to come to an end soon .I know several churches that donate people medicines and aid to people in need every where , but with the econemy colapsing and jobs falling off,people arn't able to give like they did a while back. Missionary efforts which are very different have begun to decline because support is weak as well. This once strong nation is being brought down by curruption liars and cheaters, that vote in liars and cheaters and now are disgruntled by them . When the ungodly loose their rights having abused their rights,and the world lives in fear, it will be too late to reverse it again. This will be a third world country the way NATO want's it. See Agenda 21, how closely it matches with what is goning on. You can't make this stuff up. they are srious. Certainly the earth and activity in space is becomming more agressive at least to those that have been tracking these progressions of solar and volcanic activity , not to mention the tsunamis that have occured recently and the stall of the gulf stream in the atlantic and so many other events that are going on in our life time , it can be over whelming. While all this is going on, the bright side of this is that some folk are getting more serious about their relationship with God , in sted of looking for excuses ,actually seeking to be obedient in the tutelage of the Holy Spirit ,and that's a good thing. So though things are going bad in some areas, there is hope .

Yep, you got a pretty good handle on what's going on.
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Old 10-21-2013, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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MIkelee: I read a very interesting book lately that clearly documents the decline of our society in the last 50 years, titled "Coming Apart" What some us seem to forget is that if we grew up in the 50's and 60's, we grew up in a very moral society, heavily influenced by Christianity. That has declined and made things appear very bad, which they are. However, historically speaking, I'm not sure the US society has hit an all new low. I will state that I think it will get worse, and then we'll see how bad it can get before the society completely falls apart. The trends are certainly there. The drugs, immorality, and the breakdown of family structure. I cannot envision how you can have a functioning society if most of our children are raised to be lazy, irresponsible, and relying on the govt. to feed them.
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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We are living in the darkest time in human history but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with religion and everything to do with cold hard science.
It's called global warming, or more specifically global climate change and in 80 years or sooner it is going to radically change the face of this earth like no other event in human history, except maybe the great comet strike in the Yucatan that wiped out the dinosaurs.
Scientists believe what we are headed for is a major kill-off that could literally wipe out 95% of humanity. A small pocket might survive but life in this brave new world will be primitive like the Stone Age.
That is why these are dark times. They have nothing to do with satan.
Science could well be right ' except ' that Revelation [ 11 v 18 B ] says that before such a wipe out God will involve himself into mankind's affairs and bring to ruin those ruining earth .- or no flesh would be saved - Matthew 24 v 22.

Earth abides forever- Ecc. 1 v 4 B. It is Not the earth that will be harmed, but the wicked will be destroyed.- Psalm 92 v 7

Science knows earth re-news itself. Sure in the universe [s] we see destruction of stars, etc. but we also see stellar nurseries where stars are born. God protects earth [ Psalm 102 ] and as we change garments to refresh oneself, God refreshes the earth.

We are Not only living in the ' darkest time ', but living in the ' brightest time ' because we are living in the last days of badness on earth before Jesus, as Prince of Peace , will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of good will.- Matthew 25 vs 31,32
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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I swear to you on a stack of error-riddled Bibles that satan, antichrist, the two witnesses and the beast will never make an appearance during the next 85 years. And all that other misinterpreted malarkey in Revelation will never come to pass they way prophecy gurus are pumping it up on Christian TV stations to make a few bucks on your dime.
Although Revelation is written in very vivid word pictures, does not mean it will not come to pass.
Jesus forewarned us that MANY would come "In His Name" but prove false according to Matthew chapter 7.

Satan is cast down to earth's vicinity and brings temporary 'woe' - Rev. 12 vs 9,12
There is No just one antichrist person. All who are anti-Christ are antichrists according to 1st John.
Two witnesses and the political beast are also symbolic.
The 8th king of Rev. 17 v 11 can prove to the the United Nations.
In the past God used the political / military world to be his long arm of the law.
Such as: when the Roman armies destroyed apostate Jerusalem in the year 70.
Troublesome religions have placed themselves on the U.N.'s radar, so to speak.
With backing the U.N. can be strengthened to be God's modern-day long arm of the law to surprisingly go against all religions which have run afoul playing false to God and His Word [ Bible ].
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Every generation has people who think they are living in the darkest time in history. This is common. Count your blessings.
In the year 2143, fundamentalists (if those types still exist) will believe they live in the "darkest times" because humans will be fornicating and adulterizing with aliens and virtual reality masturbation kits will be given out at the public schools in an attempt to cut down on unwanted teen pregnencies and STD's.

And it goes on..... and on...... and on.....................................
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