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Old 09-15-2016, 04:01 PM
 
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.....Also, At the time that Jesus said he came not to destroy the law could not have been referring to the Gospel as the Gospel had not been established at that time.......
Since Jesus began to preach, He established the Gospel. And the true Law of God that Jesus Christ teaches is the Law of the Gospel ... The Law of the Gospel was the true Law that was actually given to the people in time of Moses. And this is the law that Jesus Christ did not come to abolish: the law that Jesus Christ teaches us in the Gospel.

Jesus Christ abolished many commandments of the Old Testament. That you can see in the following quotes from the Gospel:


Matthew 5:31-48, Matthew 12:1-8, John 5:8-11, John 5:16-18, John 8:3-11 and the whole context of the Gospel
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:17 PM
 
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Not one part of the law passed away until.

Matthew 5:17-18 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Jesus fulfilled the Law as he said he would and then the law passed away to be replaced by the Law of Christ.
The Law of Christ did not replace the law given to Moses, but the Law of Christ is the law that God had given Moses. There is no other true law. The commandments of the Old Testament that are contrary to the law of Christ were not really given by God, but were precepts of men, so Jesus annulled those commandments and those commandments passed.

The Law of Christ is the law that he had not come to abolish because it is the true law of God
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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I disagree, because in the world there are the God's children and the children of the devil. Then the whole world is not evil.
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So, you are saying that atheist are children of the devil?
No. I do not say that. Many atheists can be confused men. The children of the devil are the evil ones: those who do not love the good and just want to do evil
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:27 AM
 
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Default The law that Jesus CAME NOT TO ABOLISH is the GOSPEL'S LAW

I remember the initial theme:

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WHICH IS THE LAW OF GOD?


The Old Testament? The New Testament? Or the Gospel?...

The commandments of the Gospel, are very different to the commandments of the Old Testament, for all the commandments of the Gospel are merciful, but many Old Testament commandments commands death sentences, wars and slavery.

The Law of God taught by Jesus Christ

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets" (Matthew 7:12)

What God wants is the mercy

"If you had known what this means, I want mercy and not sacrifice, you wouldn’t have condemned the innocent" (Matthew 12:7)

Jesus commanded to forgive seventy times seven:

"Then Peter came and said: Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Till seven? Jesus said: I tell you, not seven times, but seventy times seven." (Matthew 18 :21-22)

Jesus speaks to the pharisees about the Law

When the Pharisees heard that Jesus had left the Sadducees speechless, they met together. One of them, a legal expert, tested him. Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law? He replied, “You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your being, and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You must love your neighbor as you love yourself. All the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commands” (Matthew 22:34-40)

Jesus teaches to a rich man, the precepts of the Law

"And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why askest thou me concerning that which is good? One there is who is good: but if thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honor thy father and mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I observed: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wouldest be perfect, go, sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. But when the young man heard the saying, he went away sorrowful; for he was one that had great possessions" (Matthew 19:16-22)

These are the commandments of the Gospel, which are very different to the commandments of the Old Testament, for all the commandments of the Gospel are merciful, but many Old Testament commandments commands death sentences, wars and slavery.

So which is the law that the Christians must follow?

The law that Jesus CAME NOT TO ABOLISH is the GOSPEL'S LAW


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Old 09-25-2016, 12:28 PM
 
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Remember that the Mosaic Laws remained for some years after The time of Jesus' ministry....
Many Old Testament laws were abolished by Jesus because they were not the true Law that God had given to Moses. Those laws that Jesus abolished were only precepts of men
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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You are laughably incorrect. Talk to a Messianic Jew.
I see that is not incorrect what I did talk to a Messianic Jew, because Jesus commanded preach the Gospel to all peoples. Then the Gospel is for everyone.
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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Many Old Testament laws were abolished by Jesus because they were not the true Law that God had given to Moses. Those laws that Jesus abolished were only precepts of men
I don't think you know what you are talking about, I don't think you know the law.
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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I don't think you know what you are talking about, I don't think you know the law.
Well given the mumbo jumbo you, pinacled, Rbbi, et al. dish out, it is no surprise if few understand it.
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:44 PM
 
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The 10 commandments point to our sins. Jesus also used the 10 commandments to evangelise to the rich man for example.
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:07 PM
 
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Well given the mumbo jumbo you, pinacled, Rbbi, et al. dish out, it is no surprise if few understand it.

I know the law.


What we often see is people talking about a law they haven't a clue about. People speaking of Passover, Shavuot, Yom Kippur, Sukkot and Shemini Atzeret AS IF they knew of such things, AS IF they knew the law and the feasts of Messiah.
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