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Old 10-22-2013, 10:18 AM
 
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In the end Baptism is just a ritual to make us feel good about what we are doing. Rituals tend to have a positive effect in life is they are not abused.

God could care less if we are baptized of not as long as we are GOOD Christians or for that matter GOOD Jews.
I agree, I think that goodwill and good conduct trump ritual completely, and it doesn't matter whose ritual or what ritual.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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That's taking for granted that one was baptized in a true confessional Christian Church .... which is why what one believes matters and so yes there are exceptions.


What is a true confessional Christian church?


According to the catechism anyone can perform a baptism if there is an emergency. Otherwise, Holy Water is preferred. Do they use Holy Water in that Church? Not that it matters.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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I agree, I think that goodwill and good conduct trump ritual completely, and it doesn't matter whose ritual or what ritual.
Rituals enhance our human condition and we somehow feel better.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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It seem like fairly simple decision to me about re-baptism. Now if it's a point of contention or struggle about the authority of a local church... and their baptism is water boarding... just state your coviction and move on. Way too much drama.

Do or don't do... no is the worse for anything.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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That is OK. I don't think God is anal or petty about these things.

What happens to unbaptized infants when they die?


What happens to Jews?
If you don't think God is anal or petty about these things, then tell me why it matters to you what scriptures teach about happens or what is a true confessional Church is?
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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I agree, I think that goodwill and good conduct trump ritual completely, and it doesn't matter whose ritual or what ritual.
Are you going to be in for one heck of a surprise when you find out just how wrong that premise is ....
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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If you don't think God is anal or petty about these things, then tell me why it matters to you what scriptures teach about happens?
The scriptures were written by men that thought God was demanding, jealous, and anal. But, in the 21st century we know God cannot be like that. The Bible needs to be interpreted knowing that it was written bt men that lived in a different era.


BTW, one can see the how the Bible authors changed their views on God by comparing the OT and the NT.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:41 AM
 
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The scriptures were written by men that thought God was demanding, jealous, and anal. But, in the 21st century we know God cannot be like that. The Bible needs to be interpreted knowing that it was written bt men that lived in a different era.


BTW, one can see the how the Bible authors changed their views on God by comparing the OT and the NT.
Are you going to be in for one heck of a surprise when you find out just how wrong that premise is ....
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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Are you going to be in for one heck of a surprise when you find out just how wrong that premise is ....
Or you'll be in for a heck of a surprise when you find out that all kinds of people are going to be in Heaven that you don't think should be there. A shame that you don't put stock in God's limitless capacity for love. I guess we'll find out in the end.
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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Or you'll be in for a heck of a surprise when you find out that all kinds of people are going to be in Heaven that you don't think should be there. A shame that you don't put stock in God's limitless capacity for love. I guess we'll find out in the end.
God's unlimited capacity for love doesn't usurp God's righteous decree. Romans 1:32

The heck of surprise will be for those who do not believe God takes seriously unbelief which shows itself in the previous verses .... not to mention when Jesus said "few will enter".
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