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Old 10-30-2013, 10:24 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I will not give to charities that are for cancer or diabetes. These can be cured very easy with proper nutrition. Bit people rather have chemo than change their diets. It is sad that we even get these self inflicted cancers. Then we say that we inherited them. Rubbish. You inherent eye color. Your diet usually asks for these diseases. You can prevent it. And if you got it, it can be healed. But you never really hear about all the folks that are healed. Healing cancer is illegal in USA.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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I will not give to charities that are for cancer or diabetes. These can be cured very easy with proper nutrition. Bit people rather have chemo than change their diets. It is sad that we even get these self inflicted cancers. Then we say that we inherited them. Rubbish. You inherent eye color. Your diet usually asks for these diseases. You can prevent it. And if you got it, it can be healed. But you never really hear about all the folks that are healed. Healing cancer is illegal in USA.
Bull. If you are diagnosed with cancer, you cannot easily just change your diet and the cancer disappears. It is not even possible that someone with half a brain believes that. People who eat healthfully get cancer all the time.
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I will not give to charities that are for cancer or diabetes. These can be cured very easy with proper nutrition. Bit people rather have chemo than change their diets. It is sad that we even get these self inflicted cancers. Then we say that we inherited them. Rubbish. You inherent eye color. Your diet usually asks for these diseases. You can prevent it. And if you got it, it can be healed. But you never really hear about all the folks that are healed. Healing cancer is illegal in USA.
It's hard to believe that someone as intelligent as yourself would actually believe such nonsense. True, what we take into our bodies can make a great deal of difference to our health. As a Mormon, I couldn't agree with that statement more. But to imply that cancer can be cured (or prevented) by a change in nutrition? You can't possible expect anybody with any knowledge of the human body to buy into that.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:24 PM
 
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It's hard to believe that someone as intelligent as yourself would actually believe such nonsense. True, what we take into our bodies can make a great deal of difference to our health. As a Mormon, I couldn't agree with that statement more. But to imply that cancer can be cured (or prevented) by a change in nutrition? You can't possible expect anybody with any knowledge of the human body to buy into that.
Nearly half of cancer patients die from malnutrition, which is in direct relationship to the damaging effects of chemotherapy and radiation.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Nearly half of cancer patients die from malnutrition, which is in direct relationship to the damaging effects of chemotherapy and radiation.
Yup, it was hard to eat when I had radiation, which is why they recommended a stomach tube and a program of liquid balanced and calculated to sustain me.
As for chemo, some people get sicker than I did, but attention to nutrition is important.
Most of the problems seem to stem from waiting to long to diagnose. Some of that can't be helped, but preventive efforts are a great help......if people can afford them.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:50 PM
 
Location: On the Edge of the Fringe
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If your area is anything like mine, you get all kinds of requests for food aid for the poor. Salvation Army, Food banks, churches, etc, seem to be constantly trying to raise money to purchase food for poor people. But frankly, I find this confusing. Our nation has a record number of people on food stamps. Schools offer free breakfast and lunch. I've heard they will even send home snacks for the rest of the day. Food banks freely offer food to many. In our area, the food bank supposedly serves 100,000 people a year, which is about 1/3 of the total population of this area. Meals on wheels offers free meals to seniors. Yet one of our nations biggest problems is obesity.

I will probably get blasted for this, but I don't give to these organizations, except Salvation army, who tries to get the homeless back on their feet. Doesn't the words of Paul apply anymore, If any shall not work, neither should he eat. Certainly we don't apply this to the elderly or handicapped or children, but it seems to me a lot of able bodied people may just be living off the hard work of others. I think the food thing is being way overdone and the evidence is the high rates of obesity.

Tell me where I'm wrong. I'm waiting for someone to straighten me out.
First of, Paul was mentally ill. Your first mistake (ie area you are wrong) is following his advice.

Second, I week with many of these people. They are truly disabled, not enabled. Food stamps, free meals for children at school, are often not enough.

Third, if you do not care about the well being of your fellow man, then something is wrong with YOU! Please post for us what your basic religous philosophy is, so that we can avoid it, because it obviously has not made you into a caring or loving person. I have already ditched most all of Christianity (especially Paulinity) Islam, Satanaism, and most New Age Hoaxes. Please let me know what I need to add to the list.

Caring about your fellow man is not a sin as Paul would have you believe. ( some days, I wonder if Paul were alive now, if I would rather kill him or prescribe treatment for him...The first would be best for humanity, the second, best for him All that matters is people, humanity. If you have no love for your fellow man, take your religion and go.

Fourth, people have to pay for those programs. That includes me, as I donate my alloted 10 % or more of my income to humanistic charities (food banks, educational programs and such. ) If you do not care enough about people, then no one is forcing you to donate. Just get out of the way and let those of us who can and will make a difference handle this. amen to that.
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:04 PM
 
Location: On the Edge of the Fringe
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If your area is anything like mine, you get all kinds of requests for food aid for the poor. Salvation Army, Food banks, churches, etc, seem to be constantly trying to raise money to purchase food for poor people. But frankly, I find this confusing. Our nation has a record number of people on food stamps. Schools offer free breakfast and lunch. I've heard they will even send home snacks for the rest of the day. Food banks freely offer food to many. In our area, the food bank supposedly serves 100,000 people a year, which is about 1/3 of the total population of this area. Meals on wheels offers free meals to seniors. Yet one of our nations biggest problems is obesity.

I will probably get blasted for this, but I don't give to these organizations, except Salvation army, who tries to get the homeless back on their feet. Doesn't the words of Paul apply anymore, If any shall not work, neither should he eat. Certainly we don't apply this to the elderly or handicapped or children, but it seems to me a lot of able bodied people may just be living off the hard work of others. I think the food thing is being way overdone and the evidence is the high rates of obesity.

Tell me where I'm wrong. I'm waiting for someone to straighten me out.
First of, Paul was mentally ill. Your first mistake (ie area you are wrong) is following his advice.

Second, I week with many of these people. They are truly disabled, not enabled. Food stamps, free meals for children at school, are often not enough.

Third, if you do not care about the well being of your fellow man, then something is wrong with YOU! Please post for us what your basic religous philosophy is, so that we can avoid it, because it obviously has not made you into a caring or loving person. I have already ditched most all of Christianity (especially Paulinity) Islam, Satanaism, and most New Age Hoaxes. Please let me know what I need to add to the list.

Caring about your fellow man is not a sin as Paul would have you believe. ( some days, I wonder if Paul were alive now, if I would rather kill him or prescribe treatment for him...The first would be best for humanity, the second, best for him All that matters is people, humanity. If you have no love for your fellow man, take your religion and go.

Fourth, people have to pay for those programs. That includes me, as I donate my allotted 10 % or more of my income to humanistic charities (food banks, educational programs and such. ) If you do not care enough about people, then no one is forcing you to donate. Just get out of the way and let those of us who can and will make a difference handle this. amen to that.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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First of, Paul was mentally ill. Your first mistake (ie area you are wrong) is following his advice.

Second, I week with many of these people. They are truly disabled, not enabled. Food stamps, free meals for children at school, are often not enough.

Third, if you do not care about the well being of your fellow man, then something is wrong with YOU! Please post for us what your basic religous philosophy is, so that we can avoid it, because it obviously has not made you into a caring or loving person. I have already ditched most all of Christianity (especially Paulinity) Islam, Satanaism, and most New Age Hoaxes. Please let me know what I need to add to the list.

Caring about your fellow man is not a sin as Paul would have you believe. ( some days, I wonder if Paul were alive now, if I would rather kill him or prescribe treatment for him...The first would be best for humanity, the second, best for him All that matters is people, humanity. If you have no love for your fellow man, take your religion and go.

Fourth, people have to pay for those programs. That includes me, as I donate my allotted 10 % or more of my income to humanistic charities (food banks, educational programs and such. ) If you do not care enough about people, then no one is forcing you to donate. Just get out of the way and let those of us who can and will make a difference handle this. amen to that.
I'm with you. I've volunteered and served at soup kitchens and will continue to do so. When you meet and talk with the people who come for a meal, it gets harder to make assumptions and categorize them into neat little columns. Most of those people are NEVER going to be able to take care of themselves. Some might, someday.

That's not for me to say. I go by the "love your neighbor" guideline. Not always easy for me because that's not necessarily my default. I work to become that type of person and it may take the rest of my life. But I don't recall "neighbor" being followed by qualifications.

We have enough food in this country for everyone. No one should not eat. Yes, I'm certainly aware that many don't agree with me.
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: On the Edge of the Fringe
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I hope no one thinks I am knocking the Salvation Army. They are a good organization, they help a lot of people and much of what they provide (like the Red Cross) Goes unnoticed and unseen. They are a great organization, they are not the ONLY organization.

Did you know for example, that when a house burns down, the red cross often shows up with a truck to give the displaced family members clothes, food and vouchers for hotels for a few days to get things settled?

Did you know that Goodwill actually gives clothing for free to the people who are recently placed into halfway houses, so that they can have clothes to wear to get out and look for work?

And I am sure you know already then about the service done by community food banks and kitchens. Sadly, it does not seem like enough, but you are right, there is enough food to feed everyone in this country. I am not wanting to be the selfish person who does not care that people may be hungry. I choose to try my best to be part of the solution, not the problem. IF that means that I have to buy a few extra cans of veggies, a couple of extra boxes of cereal and a few cans of meat every week with the knowledge that they are going straight to the local food bank, then that is just the way it is. It is worth it to think that because I bought a few extra food items, someone will be eating who otherwise would not be.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Bull. If you are diagnosed with cancer, you cannot easily just change your diet and the cancer disappears. It is not even possible that someone with half a brain believes that. People who eat healthfully get cancer all the time.
There are many who are healed. The body is a machine that if given the proper nutrients , it will heal. Dr Gershin has healed many, dr burzynski has also. The majority that go get healed. Even people with stage 4. God had given the herbs for our healing. It is not easy, but it is doable. Not every cancer has to kill people. There are many docs that have healed cancer. Many even had the FDA raid their offices. Many of the people healed testified on the senate floor against the FDA. It is not just some rogue doctor. Even Japan is now jumping on the bandwagon.
Healing cancer is illegal in the USA. IF i discovered the cure that cost 5 cents. You will see how I would stab myself in the back with a knife, write a suicide letter in a handwriting that is not mine.
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