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Old 10-28-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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I don't celebrate it. I believe it is more harm then good to the spirit of men. I don't celebrate birthdays either.
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Old 10-28-2013, 03:30 PM
 
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My own 2 cents.

Assume everything in the article is absolutely, 100% true. Do the masses celebrating today share that philosophy? Is the modern halloween actually still associated with those ideals?

If you believe the frat party with the scantilly clad coeds are truly thinking satanic homilies while participating in the ritual debaucheries to honor a demonic overlord, then you should absolutely refrain from participating and in fact should devote your life to stamping out such wickedness.

If you believe, as I do, that the average halloween partier has less thought of the symbolism and origins of the event than how tasty the chocolate is or how cute that freshman looks in her leotards; then why turn it into something more sinister?

Christmas, as well as most other christian holidays, has some pretty nasty origins when you drill to when and where they started being celebrated. Most began as a means of replacing festive or spiritual events from religions being conquered by the catholic church evangalism. The "new" holiday has positive symbolism to replace the negative symbolism.

Original meanings become lost as the new meanings take root. If you truly wish those old practices to die, you must allow new ones to become more powerful and allow the old ones to be forgotten.
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:08 PM
 
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I saw this on a site today and wondered if you would still let your kids celebrate Halloween after seeing how the day came about.

NTEB: Should Christians Be Celebrating Halloween?
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Looking At Halloween From The Bible's Perspective

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them]. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret." Ephesians 5: 11,12

Click here to visit William Schnoebelen's website...

Ancient Druids. Many Christians celebrate holidays, such as Halloween, without thinking about their origins or true meaning. It is impossible to separate Halloween from the Druids because they originated the "holiday." For several hundred years before Christ, the Celts inhabited what is now France, Germany, England, Scotland and Ireland. Celtic priests were called Druids. These people were eventually conquered by the Romans. Information about the Celts and Druids comes from Caesar and the Roman historians, Greek writings from about 200 B.C., and very early records found in Ireland. Greek and Roman writings about the Druids dwell heavily on their frequent and barbaric human sacrifices. The ancient Irish texts say little about human sacrifices, but detail the Druids' use of magic to raise storms, lay curses on places, kill by the use of spells, and create magical obstacles.


Druids worshipping the Devil at Stonehenge

Human Sacrifices. Davies, however, a 16th century writer who traced his family lineage directly back to Druid priests who fought against Caesar, clearly describes the human sacrifices of his ancestors and the secret sacrifices still performed regularly by the Druids of his time. By 47 A.D., Rome finally defeated the Druids in Britain and outlawed human sacrifices. The few remaining Druids went underground. Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice. Those in England still perform ceremonies at Stonehenge.


Druids starting bonfires to give homage and worship to their pagan gods. This included the burning of animals and crops to appease thier deities.

November 1st was the Celtic new year. October 31st was celebrated by the Druids with many human sacrifices and a festival honoring their sun god and Samhain, the lord of the dead. They believed that the sinful souls of those who died during the year were in a place of torment, and would be released only if Samhain was pleased with their sacrifices.


Monks Fascinated By Druids. rish records tell of the fascination the Catholic monks had with the powerful Druids, and Druids soon became important members of their monasteries. Pope Gregory the Great decided to incorporate the Druids' holiday into the church. He made the proclamation, "They are no longer to sacrifice beasts to the devil, but they may kill them for food to the praise of God, and give thanks to the giver of all gifts for His bounty." Pope Gregory III moved the church festival of October 31st to November 1st and called it All Hallows or All Saints' Day. Pope Gregory IV decreed that the day was to be a universal church observance. The term Halloween comes from All Hallows Eve.
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[CENTER]Best-selling christian author William Schnoebelen, and we will be discussing the cultural phenomenom of vampires and zombies. Also talking about the occult roots of Halloween, the secret symbols of Masonry, and the King James Bible! [/CENTER]
The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday. Halloween was not widely celebrated in the U.S. until about 1900. In the 1840's there was a terrible potato famine in Ireland which sent thousands of Catholic Irish to America. They brought Halloween with them. The modern custom of going from door to door asking for food and candy goes back to the time of the Druids. They believed that sinful, lost souls were released upon the earth by Samhain for one night on October 31st while they awaited their judgment. They were thought to throng about the houses of the living and were greeted with banquet-laden tables. People greatly feared these spirits and thought that the spirits would harm and even kill them if the sacrifices they gave did not appease Samhain. They carved demonic faces into pumpkins or large turnips, placing a candle in them to keep the evil spirits away from their homes.

The modern custom of going from door to door asking for food and candy goes back to the time of the Druids. They believed that sinful, lost souls were released upon the earth by Samhain for one night on October 31st while they awaited their judgment. They were thought to throng about the houses of the living and were greeted with banquet-laden tables. People greatly feared these spirits and thought that the spirits would harm and even kill them if the sacrifices they gave did not appease Samhain. They carved demonic faces into pumpkins or large turnips, placing a candle in them to keep the evil spirits away from their homes.

The tradition of bobbing for apples and giving out nuts came from a Roman addition to the Druidic New Year's eve. The Romans worshiped Pomona who was the goddess of the harvest. They combined their harvest festival to Pomona with Halloween. Very little archeological evidence of the Druids has been found, but there is excellent agreement between the Roman and Irish documents. Both clearly state that the knowledge of the Druids was never committed to writing but passed from generation to generation by oral teaching. This was to protect their secrets. In his writings, Davies indicates that he came under much persecution by his family for putting in writing his information about Druids. The same is true today. Nothing is put into writing. The Druids continue on secretly with much the same traditions.



The widespread problem of harmful substances such as razor blades, drugs, poisons, needles, etc. being placed in the Halloween treats here in America is no accident. Testimonies of several ex-Satanists show that these children killed and injured by the "treats" are sacrifices to Satan (or Samhain). Satanists throughout the world continue to perform human sacrifices on Halloween. Is this something you want YOUR child to participate in?"
I guess it would come down to the intent of the heart regarding for example carving a pumpkin. Is one doing it to enjoy a night with the kids or is one doing it to appease some "god" thinking in some way it will protect them.

I don't know if the Lord is necessarily upset with people that take their kids trick or treating or put up carved pumpkins. I DO believe the Lord is upset with people that do these things "serving other gods" and there is plenty of Scripture to support this.
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:54 PM
 
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Wickedness is posted here by Christians.
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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The widespread problem of harmful substances such as razor blades, drugs, poisons, needles, etc. being placed in the Halloween treats here in America is no accident. Testimonies of several ex-Satanists show that these children killed and injured by the "treats" are sacrifices to Satan (or Samhain). Satanists throughout the world continue to perform human sacrifices on Halloween. Is this something you want YOUR child to participate in?"
There is no widespread problem of harmful substances . . . it is urban legend. Obviously you did NOT read the helpful and informative cite posted by lovesMountains. You should . . it is educational.

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Old 10-28-2013, 06:07 PM
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I saw this on a site today and wondered if you would still let your kids celebrate Halloween after seeing how the day came about.

NTEB: Should Christians Be Celebrating Halloween?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Looking At Halloween From The Bible's Perspective


"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them]. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret." Ephesians 5: 11,12

Click here to visit William Schnoebelen's website...

Ancient Druids. Many Christians celebrate holidays, such as Halloween, without thinking about their origins or true meaning. It is impossible to separate Halloween from the Druids because they originated the "holiday." For several hundred years before Christ, the Celts inhabited what is now France, Germany, England, Scotland and Ireland. Celtic priests were called Druids. These people were eventually conquered by the Romans. Information about the Celts and Druids comes from Caesar and the Roman historians, Greek writings from about 200 B.C., and very early records found in Ireland. Greek and Roman writings about the Druids dwell heavily on their frequent and barbaric human sacrifices. The ancient Irish texts say little about human sacrifices, but detail the Druids' use of magic to raise storms, lay curses on places, kill by the use of spells, and create magical obstacles.


Druids worshipping the Devil at Stonehenge

Human Sacrifices. Davies, however, a 16th century writer who traced his family lineage directly back to Druid priests who fought against Caesar, clearly describes the human sacrifices of his ancestors and the secret sacrifices still performed regularly by the Druids of his time. By 47 A.D., Rome finally defeated the Druids in Britain and outlawed human sacrifices. The few remaining Druids went underground. Today a growing group of people claiming to be of direct Druid descent, still practice their religion, including human sacrifice. Those in England still perform ceremonies at Stonehenge.


Druids starting bonfires to give homage and worship to their pagan gods. This included the burning of animals and crops to appease thier deities.

November 1st was the Celtic new year. October 31st was celebrated by the Druids with many human sacrifices and a festival honoring their sun god and Samhain, the lord of the dead. They believed that the sinful souls of those who died during the year were in a place of torment, and would be released only if Samhain was pleased with their sacrifices.


Monks Fascinated By Druids. rish records tell of the fascination the Catholic monks had with the powerful Druids, and Druids soon became important members of their monasteries. Pope Gregory the Great decided to incorporate the Druids' holiday into the church. He made the proclamation, "They are no longer to sacrifice beasts to the devil, but they may kill them for food to the praise of God, and give thanks to the giver of all gifts for His bounty." Pope Gregory III moved the church festival of October 31st to November 1st and called it All Hallows or All Saints' Day. Pope Gregory IV decreed that the day was to be a universal church observance. The term Halloween comes from All Hallows Eve.
[CENTER][CENTER] [/CENTER]
[/CENTER]

[CENTER]Best-selling christian author William Schnoebelen, and we will be discussing the cultural phenomenom of vampires and zombies. Also talking about the occult roots of Halloween, the secret symbols of Masonry, and the King James Bible! [/CENTER]
The founding fathers of America refused to permit the holiday to be observed because they knew it was a pagan holiday. Halloween was not widely celebrated in the U.S. until about 1900. In the 1840's there was a terrible potato famine in Ireland which sent thousands of Catholic Irish to America. They brought Halloween with them. The modern custom of going from door to door asking for food and candy goes back to the time of the Druids. They believed that sinful, lost souls were released upon the earth by Samhain for one night on October 31st while they awaited their judgment. They were thought to throng about the houses of the living and were greeted with banquet-laden tables. People greatly feared these spirits and thought that the spirits would harm and even kill them if the sacrifices they gave did not appease Samhain. They carved demonic faces into pumpkins or large turnips, placing a candle in them to keep the evil spirits away from their homes.

The modern custom of going from door to door asking for food and candy goes back to the time of the Druids. They believed that sinful, lost souls were released upon the earth by Samhain for one night on October 31st while they awaited their judgment. They were thought to throng about the houses of the living and were greeted with banquet-laden tables. People greatly feared these spirits and thought that the spirits would harm and even kill them if the sacrifices they gave did not appease Samhain. They carved demonic faces into pumpkins or large turnips, placing a candle in them to keep the evil spirits away from their homes.

The tradition of bobbing for apples and giving out nuts came from a Roman addition to the Druidic New Year's eve. The Romans worshiped Pomona who was the goddess of the harvest. They combined their harvest festival to Pomona with Halloween. Very little archeological evidence of the Druids has been found, but there is excellent agreement between the Roman and Irish documents. Both clearly state that the knowledge of the Druids was never committed to writing but passed from generation to generation by oral teaching. This was to protect their secrets. In his writings, Davies indicates that he came under much persecution by his family for putting in writing his information about Druids. The same is true today. Nothing is put into writing. The Druids continue on secretly with much the same traditions.



The widespread problem of harmful substances such as razor blades, drugs, poisons, needles, etc. being placed in the Halloween treats here in America is no accident. Testimonies of several ex-Satanists show that these children killed and injured by the "treats" are sacrifices to Satan (or Samhain). Satanists throughout the world continue to perform human sacrifices on Halloween. Is this something you want YOUR child to participate in?"
Lots of lies above.

Christians have much to teach most other religions when it comes to barbarism.
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:09 PM
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Wickedness is posted here by Christians.
Sanity has been posted by a couple.

The mirror won't show you who one of them is.
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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Sanity has been posted by a couple.

The mirror won't show you who one of them is.

No.

The pics in the OP are accurate.

You are partaking of evil, yet you dismiss your own failings, but worse, you cause others to stumble.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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Ancient Druids. Many Christians celebrate holidays, such as Halloween, without thinking about their origins or true meaning.
Human Sacrifices. Davies, however, a 16th century writer who traced his family lineage directly back to Druid priests who fought against Caesar, clearly describes the human sacrifices of his ancestors and the secret sacrifices still performed regularly by the Druids of his time.
Whatever the ancient Druids worshiped or celebrated has NOTHING to do with what WE are celebrating. You know who decides WHAT we are celebrating? . . . WE DO! We can NOT celebrate ANYTHING we do NOT intend to celebrate. Your concerns are baseless superstition.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:33 PM
 
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As I said, evil is posted here.
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