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Old 11-01-2013, 05:37 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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It tickles me pink that believers are so fearful of the "darrrrk" side. Isn't satan supposed to be defeated? It also amazes me no end that folk believe that they can conjure up or expose themselves to demons. As far as your faith goes, is the holy spirit not supposed to be THE most powerful of all spiritual forces?

If the tale of the devil being cast out from heaven with a third of the angels who became demons were true and if there was a demon behind every bush would there not be two angels for every one of them to restrain them? Clearly the odds must be in your favour and a few pagan nutters should not make you all fearful

All this fear makes me think (a few of you) believers give way more credence to the devil than your god or his angels.

Then again it states;

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God


IMO some folk seem to thrive on fear to get their jollies and that is just sad.

(I do not believe in any of this but still valid questions)
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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Christians aren't dummies, we all know what we should or shouldn't do. even if we try to find a reason to justify the wrong we do. peace
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Okay, I'm not going to get into various interpretations of Christianity (other than to say that I try to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ), but the original article in this thread is filled with inaccuracies and outright falsehoods in regard to British folklore and history, and the origins of Hallowe'en.

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It's too bad that some feel their faith so threatened by such unscholarly false claims and deliberate efforts to create fear and mistrust that they, and in particular, their children, are prevented from the enjoyment of a great holiday with an ancient and fascinating history.
Thank you for this, CraigCreek. I appreciate sanity and real research.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:48 AM
 
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I don't believe in celebrating Halloween. It amounts to practicing pagan religion.

Please read my previous post about the origins of Hallowe'en - it's just two above yours, which I quoted above. Thanks.

If we reject everything in modern life which has "pagan" (actually, pre-Christian, another thing entirely) roots, it would be an extremely bleak existence. Recognizing early origins of holidays, customs, and various celebrations is not the same as worshipping the non-Christian (or pre-Christian) deities whom these holidays and customs originally honored.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:53 AM
 
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I might also ask those whose rejection of Hallowe'en is based in religious principles how they refer to the days of the week and several of the months of the year, since both the names of the days and the names of the months are derived from the names of non-Christian gods.

Mars, Juno, Thor, Freya, Woden, Saturn... see the inconsistency of the argument?
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Caribbean
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Please read my previous post about the origins of Hallowe'en - it's just two above yours, which I quoted above. Thanks.

If we reject everything in modern life which has "pagan" (actually, pre-Christian, another thing entirely) roots, it would be an extremely bleak existence. Recognizing early origins of holidays, customs, and various celebrations is not the same as worshipping the non-Christian (or pre-Christian) deities whom these holidays and customs originally honored.
I expressed my belief which does not prevent you from conducting your life as you please. Don't assume that I do not understand recognizing early origins of holidays, customs and celebrations vs. worshiping non-Christian deities. I come from a family that includes or has included believers of various branches of Christianity as well as Orisha, Hinduism, Rastafarianism, Islam etc, and all of them are given recognition. I simply draw the line differently that you here.
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:08 PM
 
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I am drawn back to the original question: Should Christians be celebrating Halloween? As children were added to our family, we discussed how we might "celebrate" various holidays. There was no question that Christmas would be celebrated, but we would not join in celebrating Santa Claus. We celebrate and rejoice in Easter, but we do not celebrate and rejoice the Easter Bunny. We hesitated when we discussed Halloween. Did we want to encourage our children to join in with something just because it was a tradition or was our ultimate goal to point our children to God?

Can our kids have a party where everyone is asked to come in a costume and where there might be sweets (candy and other baked goods)? Sure they can, any time of the year! I thoroughly encourage a celebration of the seasons, and I especially love everything that comes out during the Fall season -- the colors, the harvest time, the sight and smell of a fire due to the crisp night temps, a maze constructed out of bales of hay or in a corn field, etc.

I am very thankful that Halloween is now officially over and everyone starts focusing on Thanksgiving!
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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I am drawn back to the original question: Should Christians be celebrating Halloween? As children were added to our family, we discussed how we might "celebrate" various holidays. There was no question that Christmas would be celebrated, but we would not join in celebrating Santa Claus. We celebrate and rejoice in Easter, but we do not celebrate and rejoice the Easter Bunny. We hesitated when we discussed Halloween. Did we want to encourage our children to join in with something just because it was a tradition or was our ultimate goal to point our children to God?
Did you tell your children of the origins of Christmas and Easter as far as the time of year is concerned? You do know that those also are of pagan origins do you not?

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I am very thankful that Halloween is now officially over and everyone starts focusing on Thanksgiving!
You're assuming that everyone on this forum is from United States of America are you not?

They are not. Some don't celebrate Thanksgiving at all. Like Europeans or Asians. Others like Canadians, celebrated Thanksgiving three weeks ago.

Try not have a view of things from an American centric point of view

Some of us are actually looking forward to the days celebration of when the winter solstice happens. Jews, Christians, and many other religious philosophies as well as those who have no religion, find that time of the year special. Some like Christians, try to tie in a religious aspect. That's okay, as long as they realize the pagan origins of that time of year celebration.

It's not something that occurs because of the writings that were laid down by some members of a wandering desert tribe thousands of years ago.
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Halloween's over. Maybe we could start bashing Christmas now. If we start right away, we'll have almost two months.
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:52 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Halloween's over. Maybe we could start bashing Christmas now. If we start right away, we'll have almost two months.
I don't think anybody should bash Christmas, we should just recognize that the term here means different things to different people.

To many secular people, is a wonderful time of the year for family together. For Christians see it as a religious holiday. Some religions celebrate the rebirth of the Sun the Northern Hemisphere.
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