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Old 11-16-2013, 04:37 AM
 
Location: New England
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If only people would realize the truth of this, pcamps. So much misery could be avoided. So many people think themselves into a miserable state of self-loathing or self-pity and receive no respite from their religious leaders who reinforce their miserable self-image. The kingdom of God is within and we can experience it through "loving God and each other" daily and repenting when we don't. How sad that such a simple thing as love is so badly trampled on by religious dogma.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:21 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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If only people would realize the truth of this, pcamps. So much misery could be avoided. So many people think themselves into a miserable state of self-loathing or self-pity and receive no respite from their religious leaders who reinforce their miserable self-image. The kingdom of God is within and we can experience it through "loving God and each other" daily and repenting when we don't. How sad that such a simple thing as love is so badly trampled on by religious dogma.
But our final consequence of our journey on this earth is decided on whom we choose to serve. Paul said in Rom. 6:[16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

If we choose to hunger and thierst after righteousness and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit we are empowered to love God and each other and repenting when we don't. Without that Spirit of the Holy Ghost we are not able to do these things in a way that is pleasing to our heavenly Father.
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Old 11-16-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: New England
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But our final consequence of our journey on this earth is decided on whom we choose to serve. Paul said in Rom. 6:[16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

If we choose to hunger and thierst after righteousness and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit we are empowered to love God and each other and repenting when we don't. Without that Spirit of the Holy Ghost we are not able to do these things in a way that is pleasing to our heavenly Father.
Robert, I do not believe that death referred to by Paul in that verse is about passing away, I believe it is the death that manifests in our lives from yielding to sin.
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Old 11-16-2013, 02:02 PM
 
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If only people would realize the truth of this, pcamps. So much misery could be avoided. So many people think themselves into a miserable state of self-loathing or self-pity and receive no respite from their religious leaders who reinforce their miserable self-image. The kingdom of God is within and we can experience it through "loving God and each other" daily and repenting when we don't. How sad that such a simple thing as love is so badly trampled on by religious dogma.
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But our final consequence of our journey on this earth is decided on whom we choose to serve. Paul said in Rom. 6:[16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
If we choose to hunger and thierst after righteousness and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit we are empowered to love God and each other and repenting when we don't. Without that Spirit of the Holy Ghost we are not able to do these things in a way that is pleasing to our heavenly Father.
Moderator cut: delete God cannot be fooled. We cannot fake our "love of God and each other" before God, Robert . . . nor can we WILL it to be. We can only try in our imperfections to make it so. Thankfully for us all . . . we have the perfection Christ as cover for those imperfections. We also cannot fake our sanctification under His grace by proclamations. We either attune ourselves to His agape love (however imperfectly) or we do not.

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Old 12-04-2013, 08:39 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Moderator cut: delete God cannot be fooled. We cannot fake our "love of God and each other" before God, Robert . . . nor can we WILL it to be. We can only try in our imperfections to make it so. Thankfully for us all . . . we have the perfection Christ as cover for those imperfections. We also cannot fake our sanctification under His grace by proclamations. We either attune ourselves to His agape love (however imperfectly) or we do not.
MysticPhD - I do believe we all have freedom of will to choose to serve God or to choose Satan, even though it is a limited freedom of will. See Jer. 29:[13] And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. If we hunger and thirst after righteousness, as Jesus said in Matt. 5:6 they shall be filled, and I believe He meant that they SHALL be filled by the Spirit of the Holy Ghost, which Peter says in Acts 5:32 that God gives as a gift to those who OBEY HIM. . I believe that Cornelius in Acts Ch. 10 was hungering and thirsting after righteousness and he and his friends and family were rewarded by being the first Gentiles to receive the Holy Ghost.
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