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Old 11-02-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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What is Christian polyamory, one may ask? It’s not polygamy, though polygamy is part of it.

From a church brochure:
[quote]Polyamory is the potential for loving more than one person within a given period of time. Here we'll define "love" as a serious, intimate, romantic, stable, affectionate bond which a person has with another person or group of people. Responsible non-monogamy is another way of saying polyamory, and it is used to distinguish polyamory from "cheating."

http://www.uupa.org/Literature/Understanding.pdf

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Old 11-02-2013, 09:59 AM
 
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[quote=bartstarr1960;32061225]What is Christian polyamory, one may ask? It’s not polygamy, though polygamy is part of it.


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Why would you think God doesn't judge? We are told to live holy lives. In fact, the apostle Paul addressed some cases of sexual immorality in the Corinthian church -- including a man having his father's wife. It was considered a terrible thing!
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Another church member said:
If Polyamory raises negative thoughts and emotions in some Christians, the church has some poly-friendly tips.

Fact of the matter is, though, the camel's nose is under the tent. It's only a matter of time before the whole thing comes in. Once society accepts homosexuality, it's only a matter of time for polygamy and polyamory to be forced on society.

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Old 11-02-2013, 10:36 AM
 
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No...there will be no marriage in Heaven.
Nonsense. Of course there will be marriage in heaven. Everybody who's against the idea of marriage in heaven always falls back on that tired old quote of Jesus In Matthew and Luke. Why quote it; everybody knows it.

But Jesus was operating under the law of Moses, so his comment to the Sadducees was strictly in reference to the Mosaic Levirate marriage. It has no application to to the common type of marriage we practice today.

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But Jesus responded that “they who shall be accounted worthy to obtain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage; for they cannot any more die.” What does not dying have to do with not being married? If we’re talking about marriage as a union of souls – two becoming one flesh – then not much.You could live forever and still be in union of souls. But if marriage is a legal contract to ensure that a family name is carried on through children, then suddenly it does become relevant whether a person will die again. If they no longer die, then a marriage to carry on the family name is no longer necessary. Marriage as that kind of legal contract is no longer a reality.
Read the article below and learn something:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/goodand...age-in-heaven/

Quite simply, the marriage Jesus was saying would not be in heaven was the legal contract marriage to insure the family name was carried on. As there will be no procreation in heaven there will be no need for this particular type of marriage, which is what Jesus was referring to.

Emmanuel Swedenborg, a famous Christian who had visions of heaven stated in his writings that he saw numerous married couples on numerous occasions in heaven:

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Marriages in heaven differ from marriages on the earth in that the procreation of offspring is another purpose of marriages on the earth, but not of marriages in heaven, since in heaven the procreation of good and truth takes the place of procreation of offspring….All this makes clear that [b]marriages in heaven are not like marriages on earth. In heaven marryings are spiritual, and cannot properly be called marryings,[b] but conjunctions of minds from the conjunction of good and truth. But on earth there are marryings, because these are not of the spirit alone but also of the flesh. And as there are no marryings in heaven, consorts there are not called husband and wife; but from the angelic idea of the joining of two minds into one, each consort designates the other by a name signifying one’s own, mutually and reciprocally. This shows how the Lord’s words in regard to marrying and giving in marriage (Luke 20:35, 36), are to be understood. (Heaven and Hell 382)
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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Here is a recent news article / interview about polyamory.

Polyamory: When three isn't a crowd - CNN.com
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Old 11-02-2013, 01:08 PM
 
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I am not surprised that a group calling themselves a church would promote such. It's common to use some religion to justify such activities. In the US we have seen one church that came into existence that had polygamy and polyandry practiced openly. They ended up having to stop it openly to keep their property but it's coming back out in the open again. At least the polygamy part is. I don't know if they continue with the practice of the founding leaders of having women married to more than on husband. But with the current trend to allow anything goes we will soon see it all legalized.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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From a internet study I concluded that this Emmanuel Swedenborg who claimed that people will be given to marriage and people will be married , and other claims of strange ideas which are contrary to the scriptures of the Word of God , that Emmanuel Swedenborg struggled with lying spirit which this man did not confirm the vision , with scripture and the Lord Jesus Spirit , and made many false claims which were of error , still he may have been a large margin correct , he was still a large margin error in the truth , as Jesus said he make No provision for marriage after people pass on , and the error that demons are on other planets are error as God make not provision for any spirits of this earth to leave the earth ......... People have vision from the physic realm which is natural than they need to confirm with the Lord Jesus and Pray to His spirit that the visions are correct , as Apostle Paul tell believers to caste down imaginations , as stay to the correct truth ..... Because the false prophet is in the earth and needs to prove God the son Jesus is error , and irrelevant ....
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Old 11-02-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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Polyamory? Just call it what the Bible calls it, fornication. Nothing new, just another one of the many paths to hell.
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Old 11-02-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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No...there will be no marriage in Heaven. And there is no reason to believe that when we are in the presence of God, that we will want to condescend to physical sex,
Condescend?

So..... the fundamentalists believe that sex is a sin unless they're married (OK to do the deed if the get-out-of-jail free card is bestowed by a now-approving God) ... and the minute they pass through the pearly gates God pulls the yellow card and it becomes condescending.

Fascinating.

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Old 11-02-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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From a internet study I concluded that this Emmanuel Swedenborg who claimed that people will be given to marriage and people will be married , and other claims of strange ideas which are contrary to the scriptures of the Word of God , that Emmanuel Swedenborg struggled with lying spirit which this man did not confirm the vision , with scripture and the Lord Jesus Spirit , and made many false claims which were of error , still he may have been a large margin correct , he was still a large margin error in the truth , as Jesus said he make No provision for marriage after people pass on , and the error that demons are on other planets are error as God make not provision for any spirits of this earth to leave the earth ......... People have vision from the physic realm which is natural than they need to confirm with the Lord Jesus and Pray to His spirit that the visions are correct , as Apostle Paul tell believers to caste down imaginations , as stay to the correct truth ..... Because the false prophet is in the earth and needs to prove God the son Jesus is error , and irrelevant ....
>>>>>>and other claims of strange ideas which are contrary to the scriptures of the Word of God

But it's NOT contrary to the word of God. I just explained in explicit detail--what do I need to do, draw a diagram?---about why Jesus' words to the Sadducees has absolutely nothing to do with marriage as we know it today. I'll try again:

Jesus was specifically referring to a "levirate" marriage, which is what the sadducees asked Him about. They did NOT ask Him about marriage in general, JUST marriages in which a brother had to marry his widowed sister-in-law in order to produce an heir so that her progeny could carry on the family line. That is why Jesus mentions "neither can they die anymore" because the issue was "what happens if a man dies and his widow remarries all seven of his brothers".

With me so far?

In a regular marriage where a child heir has been produced the subject of dying is not an issue, hence Jesus had no reason to mention the topic of death. So why would Jesus mention death when it had to relevance to ordinary marriage? Because the topic was not ordinary marriage, but levirate, (or "contract") marriages. Such marriages: "In the resurrection they neither [levirate] marry nor are given in [levirate] marriage". So Jesus' words have absolutely nothing to do with ordinary unions of two people.

Understand that in the spirit world we retain our sexual identities, in fact everything on this earth is magnified in the spirit world, except all sin, evil, and things that offend, which are not present; they're done away with. We live in communities of like-minded spirits compatible with our own, in beautiful houses, in beautiful environments of fields, mountains, pastures, rivers, meet with other spirits in great structures like libraries of learning, music halls--everything that is good that we found enjoyable here on earth, except the joys are enhanced a million X's, and that includes marriage and sexual union, yes with sexual organs, naturally within the confines of the ordinary marriage institution, which goes on in heaven. The only thing that is different is that sperm is not ejaculated because the sole function of that process is to procreate and there will be no procreation in heaven.

But naturally the fundamentalists will say, "Doesn't matter. 'In heaven they neither marry nor are given in marriage' ".

Oh well, it's a hopeless, fruitless task trying to explain something to Christian fundamentalists. The wonder is that I keep pounding my head against a brick wall trying.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:48 AM
 
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Unitarian Universalists are not Christian.
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