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Old 11-19-2013, 07:45 PM
 
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Default Kenneth Copeland's Treatment For PTSD Sufferering Soldiers-No Psychotherapy or Medication

I have seen David Barton in person talk about American history and was impressed. Today, I read an article relating a Veteran's Day 2013 broadcast message by David Barton and Kenneth Copeland. Honestly, I've heard the name Kenneth Copeland but I've never listened to him. The article caught my attention because of David Barton. Like I said, I've heard him talk about American history but have no clue to his personal beliefs.

I'm unsure if the video is the entire broadcast or a segment of a longer broadcast. The treatment they recommend is no drugs and no psychotherapy.

The article also quotes some pastors and psychologists who have taken issue with Barton's and Copeland's presentation.
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“It is obvious that they do not have knowledge of the condition,” said Warren Throckmorton, a Grove City College psychology professor who has written on Barton. “Copeland and Barton err theologically as well by taking specific Scriptures written in relationship to Israel and apply them to American armies.”
The NIMH says regarding PTSD treatment:
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The main treatments for people with PTSD are psychotherapy (“talk” therapy), medications, or both. Everyone is different, so a treatment that works for one person may not work for another. It is important for anyone with PTSD to be treated by a mental health care provider who is experienced with PTSD. Some people with PTSD need to try different treatments to find what works for their symptoms.
If someone with PTSD is going through an ongoing trauma, such as being in an abusive relationship, both of the problems need to be treated. Other ongoing problems can include panic disorder, depression, substance abuse, and feeling suicidal.
NIMH · Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
The VA recommends several treatment options, Treatment - PTSD: National Center for PTSD

Should one suffering from PTSD follow Barton's and Copeland's treatment regimen or a physician's or psychologist's treatment program?
David Barton & Kenneth Copeland: PTSD isn't biblical | Religion News Service

Barton & Copeland: The Bible Says Soldiers Should Not Suffer From Guilt Or PTSD - YouTube
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Clanton, AL
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Copeland is not known for accuracy or factual teachings so I would avoid anything he endorses or teaches.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:23 PM
 
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There are no winners in war; only survivors.
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Let's be honest. Copeland is a wacko. If he'd wear a bit more make-up, he might even qualify as a clown.
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Clanton, AL
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Let's be honest. Copeland is a wacko. If he'd wear a bit more make-up, he might even qualify as a clown.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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Copeland is the fodder for religion-hating atheists. He hurts the name of Christianity. I would not recommend listening to him. I'm amazed that some people take him seriously.
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:33 PM
 
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I would suggest guiltless has more to do with differentiating murder from killing; whereas the first breaks a commandment, and the second is a command of conflict/war. They are also suggesting guilt is a part of PTSD. How about horror? How about fear that you would be taken in death? How about just the simple atrocity of war? PTSD is known for helplessness, flashbacks, physiological reactions, hypervigilance, etc. I have seen PTSD and guilt is not part of the picture - the people are seeking health and cannot access it, for the cascade of symptoms.

The military has certain proscriptions for addressing PTSD. It is likely Barton and Copeland have not been in war, have not listened (not counseled, but listened) to persons who have returned from war, nor have they likely seen with clarity and understanding anyone who has experienced PTSD. Charlatans. They don't do Christianity any good, they don't do spirituality any good, and they don't do a good interpretation of scriptures. This is the worst recommendation at a time when our people are returning from war-torn areas. Their commentary is a poor public service and an aberration of spirituality. Shame!
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