The Eventual Restoration of All (soul, eternity, Baptist, Christians)

[JViello]

Originally Posted by Birdy_56

Hi there ILNC...we are called upon to exalt the Lord Jesus Christ as we are lead about captives in His triumphal procession. We rejoice with every individual who joins us in welcoming the Healer of broken lives, and surrenders to Him as Lord and Saviour. As for explaining to someone how the wind blows, "such is every one born of the Spirit."

So why did Jesus send out the diciples to preach the arrival of the Messiah? Why did Paul dedicate his life spread the word of the Messiah then?

By your definition they could have just had a big partyin God's honor and called it a day.

[ShanaBrown]

Just sharing some notes I came across today

"It is important for us to understand that when a man rejects God, he is in essence rejecting his own self. The reason for this is simple: each man has his beginning in God, and so a rejection of God is to reject the very purpose for which he was born (to find his end in God). (Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.." All men are born into this world lost and blind, stumbling in the dark, trying to find the answer to the question, “Why am I here and for what purpose was I born?” Each man, in the course of his life, seeks to answer that very question. Apart from God, all goals and dreams in this life are simply illusions at best, and until these illusions are shattered and revealed to us for what they are, man can never be happy and fulfilled."

Man’s “Free” Will & God’s Absolute Sovereignty -Ken Ecke

God bless.

[Birdy_56]

Originally Posted by ShanaBrown

Just sharing some notes I came across today

"It is important for us to understand that when a man rejects God, he is in essence rejecting his own self. The reason for this is simple: each man has his beginning in God, and so a rejection of God is to reject the very purpose for which he was born (to find his end in God). (Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.." All men are born into this world lost and blind, stumbling in the dark, trying to find the answer to the question, “Why am I here and for what purpose was I born?” Each man, in the course of his life, seeks to answer that very question. Apart from God, all goals and dreams in this life are simply illusions at best, and until these illusions are shattered and revealed to us for what they are, man can never be happy and fulfilled."

Man’s “Free” Will & God’s Absolute Sovereignty -Ken Ecke

God bless.

We are indeed a blind lot, and worst, not aware of it. We stumble along in this veil of tears declaring loudly we are rich and in need of nothing, not aware that the Living One is saying "nada." You are blind and poor and naked....come out to Me and take unto yourselves new garments to hide the shame of your nakedness. Much thanks for the link, Shana, and the quote.

Awakening

"Death is but a phantom, the grave but a door; the unseen is yet the real; that all that men call-and too often call-reality and fact in this world, shall pass away as dream; and the mighty morning of Truth shall dawn at last; and we who, it may be, have been tossed all the night long in weary dreams, shall at length say, "Now I am awake, and I know what life is."

Have any of you felt, when you lay down at night, weary, perhaps, from the work of the day, that yet you were unwilling to yield this consciousness? You recoiled from passing away from yourself, as it were, from letting go this conscious being and yielding to the half-death. I almost believe that something like this was the feeling of the Psalmist at times, when he lay down to sleep. Then comes the sense that we want God, for we, ourselves, poor as is our hold upon ourselves, and wretched upholders of life in ourselves as we are, must yield that hold, and if God be nowhere with us, where are we?

But the Psalmist comforts himself by saying: "When I awake, and the time of darkness and dreams is over, I am still with Thee. I shall have been with Thee all the time; and when I was still, Thy life was pulsing into my heart, Thy life was beating in my veins, and the strength which my own consciousness kept out, in the time of my unconsciousness has been flowing full and rich and unopposed into my passive being. When I awake, I am still with Thee."

To awake is to be with God, to sleep is to be with God. To awake is but to know it. What shall we awake into, but into God? If there is no surrounding peace, no rich infinitude of living, loving thought, O friends, what hope is there for us who have to fight; because this: that we know in ourselves is a poor, wretched thing; because we are not noble, and we would be noble; because we are not pure, and we would be pure; because we are dull of heart and stupid of brain; yet we see such a possibility before us, short-lived as we know we are, that we know we are but half-awake, and fain would we awake and be with the eternal, living, changeless, absolute Life." -George MacDonald-

HERE

[Birdy_56]

And the Lord said to the prophet Hosea "Call her name Not Pitied." When "Not Pitied" was weaned, another child was born to the prophet and his harlot wife. She conceived and bore a son...."and the Lord said, "Call his name Not my people, and I am not your God."

Two children, two names; "Not My People" and "Not Pitied"

What a revolting picture of despair and separation! But wait....there is more! The Lord answers the heavens, and the heavens answers the earth, and we hear the tender words of the Compassionating Lord of the Universe....

"I will have pity on Not Pitied!"

"In that day...I will answer the heavens and they shall answer the earth....and I will sow him FOR MYSELF.... and I will have pity on "Not Pitied" and I will say to "Not my People"...You are my people and he shall say, "You are my God."

"I will betroth you to Myself forever. I will betroth you in lawful wedlock with unfailing love and devotion...I will betroth you to Myself to have and to hold and you shall know the Lord."

And to "Not Pitied" and "Not My People"?

"I will pity Not Pitied! Not My People shall be My people!"

[Rockhead]

Originally Posted by Birdy_56

And the Lord said to the prophet Hosea "Call her name Not Pitied." When "Not Pitied" was weaned, another child was born to the prophet and his harlot wife. She conceived and bore a son...."and the Lord said, "Call his name Not my people, and I am not your God."

Two children, two names; "Not My People" and "Not Pitied"

What a revolting picture of despair and separation! But wait....there is more! The Lord answers the heavens, and the heavens answers the earth, and we hear the tender words of the Compassionating Lord of the Universe....

"I will have pity on Not Pitied!"

"In that day...I will answer the heavens and they shall answer the earth....and I will sow him FOR MYSELF.... and I will have pity on "Not Pitied" and I will say to "Not my People"...You are my people and he shall say, "You are my God."

"I will betroth you to Myself forever. I will betroth you in lawful wedlock with unfailing love and devotion...I will betroth you to Myself to have and to hold and you shall know the Lord."

And to "Not Pitied" and "Not My People"?

"I will pity Not Pitied! Not My People shall be My people!"

Could it be that the prophets were correct?

Who is to be kept in heaven till the time when all things are put right, of which God has given word by the mouth of his holy prophets, who have been from the earliest times.

[Birdy_56]

Originally Posted by Rockhead

Could it be that the prophets were correct?

Rockhead: the Lord has spoken by the mouths of the prophets from the earliest ages regarding the restitution of all things. All radically means all, and the all is to be recovered from the dominion of sin. All is to be restored anew, and all is to be put right in the dispensation of the fulness of times when our God gathers together the all in the heavens, and the earth, and the underworld in our Lord Jesus Christ. The prophets are correct, and in complete harmony with the New Covenant. Ultimately there shall be no more curse, no more death, no more dismay. All ultimately returns to Alpha, the Source of all things, and most assuredly the Goal of all. He is the Source, the Guide and the Goal of all that is!

And the leaves of the Tree of Life are for the healing of the nations. And there shall no longer be a curse upon anything.

[freedom]

Its been said that those leaves are the love of God shed forth through the hearts of the children of men.

Which must happen in order for the healing to commence.

godspeed,

freedom

[Birdy_56]

Originally Posted by freedom

Its been said that those leaves are the love of God shed forth through the hearts of the children of men.

Which must happen in order for the healing to commence.

godspeed,

freedom

That may indeed be true, Freedom, because love never fails, and the One whose essence is Love most certainly never fails, never!

The word "curse" is the same word used by St. Paul regarding anathema, and all anathema is to come to an end. The word used regarding healing is the source in English for theuraputics. And the leaves of the Tree of Life are for the theuraputics of the nations. And there shall no longer be anathema upon anything.

[freedom]

Originally Posted by Birdy_56

That may indeed be true, Freedom, because love never fails, and the One whose essence is Love most certainly never fails, never!

The word "curse" is the same word used by St. Paul regarding anathema, and all anathema is to come to an end. The word used regarding healing is the source in English for theuraputics. And the leaves of the Tree of Life are for the theuraputics of the nations. And there shall no longer be anathema upon anything.

Nice, we all look forward to that, do you think it may be in the thousand years of peace, or from there on?

godspeed,

freedom

[Birdy_56]

Originally Posted by freedom

Nice, we all look forward to that, do you think it may be in the thousand years of peace, or from there on?

godspeed,

freedom

We not only look forward, we eagerly long for this mortal to be swallowed up in immortality. St. Paul speaks in Eph. 1 of the Lord moving to gather together into summary in Jesus Christ, the entire universe (everything in the terrestial and celestial). And we know that the Koine is strong for everything: ta pavnte= the all. In this remarkable unfolding, the words "in the dispensation of the fulness of times" are used. The thousand year reign of Jesus Christ, as glorious as it surely is, is followed by further indication of some things continuing in defiance to His authority for a short period. In the final consummation there is nothing that has not been brought into union with His mind and heart, nothing.