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What if your Bible ACTUALLY says that Jesus came to DESTROY SIN? How would that change your understanding of your theology? Does your church teach the UTTER destruction of SIN ITSELF?
The Bible actually says the very PURPOSE for which Jesus came was to destroy sin:
1Jn_3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
How can anyone preach ETERNAL TORMENT and still claim that Jesus is going to eradicate sin as that verse shows?
In Revelations 20: 1-6 The earth will be sinless by the Works of Jesus Christ....``And I saw an angel come down from heaven , having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand ...And he laid hold on the dragon that old serpent, which is the devil and satan , and bound him a thousand years ..and cast him into the bottomless pit , and shut him up , and set a seal on him , that he should deceive the nations no more , till the thousand years should be fulfilled , and after that he must be loosed a little season ..... ``....................See here is a time which Jesus fulfills His authority in the earth and eradicates sin on the earth probably for to prove man in a sinless conditions , for God Judgments of man ..... Also Heaven which God is there is a sinless existence
In Revelations 20: 1-6 The earth will be sinless by the Works of Jesus Christ....``And I saw an angel come down from heaven , having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand ...And he laid hold on the dragon that old serpent, which is the devil and satan , and bound him a thousand years ..and cast him into the bottomless pit , and shut him up , and set a seal on him , that he should deceive the nations no more , till the thousand years should be fulfilled , and after that he must be loosed a little season ..... ``....................See here is a time which Jesus fulfills His authority in the earth and eradicates sin on the earth probably for to prove man in a sinless conditions , for God Judgments of man ..... Also Heaven which God is there is a sinless existence
So do you believe that Jesus's purpose was only to eradicate sin on earth and that it could exist elsewhere?
What if your Bible ACTUALLY says that Jesus came to DESTROY SIN? How would that change your understanding of your theology? Does your church teach the UTTER destruction of SIN ITSELF?
The Bible actually says the very PURPOSE for which Jesus came was to destroy sin:
1Jn_3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
How can anyone preach ETERNAL TORMENT and still claim that Jesus is going to eradicate sin as that verse shows?
You are missing John's point. John is not saying that there will be no sin in the lake of fire. He is talking about the fact that Jesus came to destroy the power of sin in the believer's life and therefore the believer is not to give himself over to sin. When the believer is walking in the power of the sin nature he is also walking in Satan's cosmic or world system. 1 John 2:15 Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. John is saying that the believer is not supposed to sin. That doesn't mean that the believer will achieve sinless perfection, but only that he is not supposed to sin. Paul said in Romans 6:22 that the believer has been freed from sin and enslaved to God. The believer is therefore not to give himself over to slavery to sin, but to righteousness. John is saying the same thing as Paul.
1 John 3:8 cannot therefore be used to argue against what is taught in passages such as Revelation 19:20-20:10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9; Matthew 25:41-46, etc.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
This is also a great verse as it shows that He came to take away our sins. Notice it doesn't say that you have to take away your sins but that He will take away our sins.
That first part of Psalm 1 is a powerful message. In my bible it is titled The Two Paths. Verses 1-3 tells the rewards for following one pathe while verses 4-6 tell the outcome of the other path.
1Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
The NIV version of verse six is even more descriptive,
For the Lord watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.
That first part of Psalm 1 is a powerful message. In my bible it is titled The Two Paths. Verses 1-3 tells the rewards for following one pathe while verses 4-6 tell the outcome of the other path.
1Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
The NIV version of verse six is even more descriptive,
For the Lord watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.
The context shows that the ungodly will have their WAY destroyed. This means that eventually the wicked will be no longer because their WAY will be removed/destroyed. This shows that Universally everyone's fate is to no longer have a WAY of ungodliness. That way is SIN.
Hell and the thoughts of Hades will be cast into the Lake of Fire.
...and if I may take the liberty to add that biblical hell is vacant when hell is cast into that symbolic lake for death and hell. - Rev. 20 vs 13,14
After everyone in the ' Bible's hell ' [ grave ] is ' delivered up ' [ meaning resurrected out of hell ] then emptied-out hell is cast vacated into that 'second death' for death and hell.
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