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Old 11-01-2017, 04:18 PM
 
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I think part of the reason why this is not sinking in to many people is they are still believing the "rapture" doctrine as it's been taught, AND are still looking up at the clouds even though the angels said not to. Perhaps these 2 things need to be laid bare for the "soil" to be better prepared to receive seed? Peace
What they need to learn is the great division, this division is shown in so many places that it aint funy, it is proven in repetition alone, that God is going to step on your head and you shall cleave North to south as the mountain of Olives. There you and everyone who has ever been born, there you will be in the valley between the halves looking for escape, and the question is, '' when your waters have been split in two and as they are standing on end, will you be taken from the water and made a path extending to the other side?'' When Elijah is taken, will you indeed be left behind with a double portion?


The great division is what they don't see, they see a rapture where they call the wicked, the righteous. Those who are taken, DEAR LORD, WHERE O WHERE ARE THEY TAKEN?


And the lord answers,'' Where so ever the dead body is laying, RIGHT THERE is where the vulture and dogs and maggots will have a feast, a feast to the birds will come to those who are taken.
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Old 11-01-2017, 04:29 PM
 
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I think part of the reason why this is not sinking in to many people is they are still believing the "rapture" doctrine as it's been taught, AND are still looking up at the clouds even though the angels said not to. Perhaps these 2 things need to be laid bare for the "soil" to be better prepared to receive seed? Peace
Seems to me, from the soil, so to speak, the figurative haughty ' goats ' of Matthew 25:31-33,37 are just bad seed.
Whereas the figurative humble ' sheep ' are good seed. They both are on the same soil (earth) but grow differently.
The humble good-seed ' sheep ' do good to Jesus' spiritual brothers of Matthew 25:40.
Whereas the haughty bad-seed ' goats ' when they hear about the good news of God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44 do Not do good toward Jesus' spiritual brothers of Matthew 25:40.
No rapture mentioned for those humble/meek ' sheep ' but rather they can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth right through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
They can be here alive on Earth starting with calendar Day One when Jesus begins his 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth for a thousand years when even enemy death will be No more on Earth as per Isaiah 25:8; 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:58 PM
 
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THIS IS YOU, The water and blood was taken out of Jesus to create a bride, and the water and blood are two witnesses who testify of all things and who agree in all things and these are within YOU.


1 John 5
6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one



AGAIN, Revelation is written to a Gentile that has received the power of Elijah and because of this, the person feels the power, he hears the power, and what he hears is vanity of a spirit who comes teaching him just as the unclean birds came teaching Elijah and instead of Elijah acting in love to build a place to live and teach the prophets, Elijah comes in the vanity of judgment because HE KNOWS HE IS RIGHT.

YOU ARE THE TWO WITNESSES, AND REVELATION IS TEACHING YOU WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CROSSOVER AND GIVEN POWER IN YOUR TWO WITNESSES.


Revelation is your walk beginning on Tishri 1 after finishing your first season, and unless a person walks in a Passover lifestyle and the study in Pentecost, HE WILL NEVER RECIEVE POWER, and when he does receive this power, he begins in vanity and this is what is to be overcome through the knowledge of the Lord and the realization of what the plan is, and why things are happening to you that you can't tell anyone about.


YOU have the two witnesses in you, what MUST COME TO PASS SHORTLY, is what happens when you crossover because you have to stay in the field, you have to stay on the rooftop, and you have to continue in study that you know who is who and what is what if you are to become a Priest, and that is the goal. You are given power and you will glorify in the flesh as everyone who has been given power, but the spirit is only come to teach, not that you should think yourself a prophet, it only comes to teach and it takes a very long time for a person to realize this, and to then see and acknowledge the beast that was in them, and the war that is waging.


The Two Witnesses
1And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
The Witnesses Killed and Raised
7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.


YOU, YOU are the water, and YOU are the blood, YOU ARE THE TWO WITNESSES.


Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation along with every single parable of Jesus is only instruction on the 7 feasts and the 8th day and how they relate to Judah and Ephraim.


IT IS YOUR WALK, Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation begin on Tishri 1, this is a biblical fact.


It is instruction for every single generation, it is the end of the world you know now. The second coming of Jesus is in YOU.

As much as I appreciate your heartfelt anology---Revelation is clear--Jesus will ride the white horse( righteous war) at Har-mageddon and lead Gods armies to this earth for--1) wipe out all the wicked and wicked things. To capture satan and his angels and abyss them for the thousand years.3) bring Gods kingdom rule to all creation.
Besides it all began here at Rev 6 when he receives his crown( first ride of the white horse=the war in heaven--So all know Michael took this ride, proving 100% Michael is Jesus because only Jesus gets the crown.
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Old 11-02-2017, 02:00 PM
 
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Yeah right.

Spiritual Israel= Any Israelite who leaves Judaism and follows Jesus and any gentile who truly follows Jesus--The real Jesus that is.
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Old 11-02-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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As much as I appreciate your heartfelt anology---Revelation is clear--Jesus will ride the white horse( righteous war) at Har-mageddon and lead Gods armies to this earth for--1) wipe out all the wicked and wicked things. To capture satan and his angels and abyss them for the thousand years.3) bring Gods kingdom rule to all creation.
Besides it all began here at Rev 6 when he receives his crown( first ride of the white horse=the war in heaven--So all know Michael took this ride, proving 100% Michael is Jesus because only Jesus gets the crown.
You are never going to understand Revelation if you do not want to understand Revelation, and the only way you can read Revelation is to study the religion it is written in, and the people it was written to. You can't ever understand Revelation if you don't know the fall Holy days like the back of your hand. Now I tell people this, and they still think they can read it without studying Jewish holy days, without studying Jewish traditions and ritual, without even knowing what the priests are doing in the temple. You say that it is clear, but everything written is a prisoner writing in a way that nobody could read it unless they were Jewish. You will never have any idea of just how much you are missing when you don't know the Jewish holy days. It is Jewish idiom and traditions from the first page to the last page where you can open to any page of Revelation and write the date because of the fact that you love the ways of the Lord and you know EXACTLY what day it is because your family has been practicing traditions, rituals, the prayer cycle, the duties of the priest, and ESPECIALLY the duties of a priest and what he is doing during the fall Holy days, and if you do not know these things, then NOTHING IS CLEAR MAN.




Like those 4 parables of the sower, the wheat and the tares, the mustard seed, and the leaven that a woman took and hid in 3 measures of meal. If you don't know the Holy days of Jesus, you couldn't possibly know what is being said, and EVERYTHING said is about the Jewish holy days whether you know it or not.


Revelation begins on Tishri 1 just as Matthew 24 begins on Tishri 1.




Christians do not know Jesus just as they will plainly admit that they don't know what happens on Hashanah Rabbah or what happens on Shemini Atzeret, and whether they know it or not, NOT TO KNOW THESE THINGS is not to know your own days, and the subject you are speaking of. Christians are sitting here speaking of appointed visitation days of God and act as if true Jews have not been practicing these days, or that somehow nobody knows these days and their traditions in order to understand the New Testament. You can't even begin to get to any truth unless you begin in knowing the feasts. We look at unbelievers and say,'' Believe Jesus was your Passover lamb and you are saved,'' and then we instruct him that keeping the feasts of Jesus is sin. The only way to know Jesus is to know the law and the feasts, and if you don't know the feasts like the back of your hand, you shouldn't even speak of Revelation or anything Jesus said at all.


What good is coming to a forum to speak about Jesus when you wont actually study anything about Jesus? Jesus was a Jew, Jesus came teaching secrets of the law and the prophets concerning the 7 feasts days and the 8th holy day of Sukkot, and these things are our goal, but why would you come speaking of a different gospel, a different truth that is not the religion of God?


Why speak or enter a conversation or debate without any of the knowledge given to have a debate?


Jesus was the Passover lamb, but how was he the Sukkot bull and the goat of Yom Kippur and the Ram of Shavuot?


Have you ever even looked into the things of Jesus so that you might get a clue on Revelation, A BOOK WRITTEN OF THE FALL HOLY DAYS?
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Old 11-02-2017, 03:36 PM
 
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You are never going to understand Revelation if you do not want to understand Revelation, and the only way you can read Revelation is to study the religion it is written in, and the people it was written to. You can't ever understand Revelation if you don't know the fall Holy days like the back of your hand. Now I tell people this, and they still think they can read it without studying Jewish holy days, without studying Jewish traditions and ritual, without even knowing what the priests are doing in the temple. You say that it is clear, but everything written is a prisoner writing in a way that nobody could read it unless they were Jewish. You will never have any idea of just how much you are missing when you don't know the Jewish holy days. It is Jewish idiom and traditions from the first page to the last page where you can open to any page of Revelation and write the date because of the fact that you love the ways of the Lord and you know EXACTLY what day it is because your family has been practicing traditions, rituals, the prayer cycle, the duties of the priest, and ESPECIALLY the duties of a priest and what he is doing during the fall Holy days, and if you do not know these things, then NOTHING IS CLEAR MAN.




Like those 4 parables of the sower, the wheat and the tares, the mustard seed, and the leaven that a woman took and hid in 3 measures of meal. If you don't know the Holy days of Jesus, you couldn't possibly know what is being said, and EVERYTHING said is about the Jewish holy days whether you know it or not.


Revelation begins on Tishri 1 just as Matthew 24 begins on Tishri 1.




Christians do not know Jesus just as they will plainly admit that they don't know what happens on Hashanah Rabbah or what happens on Shemini Atzeret, and whether they know it or not, NOT TO KNOW THESE THINGS is not to know your own days, and the subject you are speaking of. Christians are sitting here speaking of appointed visitation days of God and act as if true Jews have not been practicing these days, or that somehow nobody knows these days and their traditions in order to understand the New Testament. You can't even begin to get to any truth unless you begin in knowing the feasts. We look at unbelievers and say,'' Believe Jesus was your Passover lamb and you are saved,'' and then we instruct him that keeping the feasts of Jesus is sin. The only way to know Jesus is to know the law and the feasts, and if you don't know the feasts like the back of your hand, you shouldn't even speak of Revelation or anything Jesus said at all.


What good is coming to a forum to speak about Jesus when you wont actually study anything about Jesus? Jesus was a Jew, Jesus came teaching secrets of the law and the prophets concerning the 7 feasts days and the 8th holy day of Sukkot, and these things are our goal, but why would you come speaking of a different gospel, a different truth that is not the religion of God?


Why speak or enter a conversation or debate without any of the knowledge given to have a debate?


Jesus was the Passover lamb, but how was he the Sukkot bull and the goat of Yom Kippur and the Ram of Shavuot?


Have you ever even looked into the things of Jesus so that you might get a clue on Revelation, A BOOK WRITTEN OF THE FALL HOLY DAYS?
Looking toward pesach (passover
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Old 11-02-2017, 04:06 PM
 
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Looking toward pesach (passover
Passover is appointed to fall on Tishri 15th at the second coming of Jesus, did you know that? On Tishri 15th, the Passover sacrifice will occur, and with it, the Ram of Shavuot, and with these, the goat of Yom Kippur, along with the Sukkot Bull. All of these days are appointed to fall on Tishri 15th just as all of them fell on Nisan 14.
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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You are never going to understand Revelation if you do not want to understand Revelation, and the only way you can read Revelation is to study the religion it is written in, and the people it was written to. You can't ever understand Revelation if you don't know the fall Holy days like the back of your hand. Now I tell people this, and they still think they can read it without studying Jewish holy days, without studying Jewish traditions and ritual, without even knowing what the priests are doing in the temple. You say that it is clear, but everything written is a prisoner writing in a way that nobody could read it unless they were Jewish. You will never have any idea of just how much you are missing when you don't know the Jewish holy days. It is Jewish idiom and traditions from the first page to the last page where you can open to any page of Revelation and write the date because of the fact that you love the ways of the Lord and you know EXACTLY what day it is because your family has been practicing traditions, rituals, the prayer cycle, the duties of the priest, and ESPECIALLY the duties of a priest and what he is doing during the fall Holy days, and if you do not know these things, then NOTHING IS CLEAR MAN.




Like those 4 parables of the sower, the wheat and the tares, the mustard seed, and the leaven that a woman took and hid in 3 measures of meal. If you don't know the Holy days of Jesus, you couldn't possibly know what is being said, and EVERYTHING said is about the Jewish holy days whether you know it or not.


Revelation begins on Tishri 1 just as Matthew 24 begins on Tishri 1.




Christians do not know Jesus just as they will plainly admit that they don't know what happens on Hashanah Rabbah or what happens on Shemini Atzeret, and whether they know it or not, NOT TO KNOW THESE THINGS is not to know your own days, and the subject you are speaking of. Christians are sitting here speaking of appointed visitation days of God and act as if true Jews have not been practicing these days, or that somehow nobody knows these days and their traditions in order to understand the New Testament. You can't even begin to get to any truth unless you begin in knowing the feasts. We look at unbelievers and say,'' Believe Jesus was your Passover lamb and you are saved,'' and then we instruct him that keeping the feasts of Jesus is sin. The only way to know Jesus is to know the law and the feasts, and if you don't know the feasts like the back of your hand, you shouldn't even speak of Revelation or anything Jesus said at all.


What good is coming to a forum to speak about Jesus when you wont actually study anything about Jesus? Jesus was a Jew, Jesus came teaching secrets of the law and the prophets concerning the 7 feasts days and the 8th holy day of Sukkot, and these things are our goal, but why would you come speaking of a different gospel, a different truth that is not the religion of God?


Why speak or enter a conversation or debate without any of the knowledge given to have a debate?


Jesus was the Passover lamb, but how was he the Sukkot bull and the goat of Yom Kippur and the Ram of Shavuot?


Have you ever even looked into the things of Jesus so that you might get a clue on Revelation, A BOOK WRITTEN OF THE FALL HOLY DAYS?

The ONLY teachers on earth who know what revelation means are the ones Jesus appointed here in these last days. They are the only teachers who have Jesus. They are easily seen by all. Jesus said the true followers will be hated. The world hated them back in Jesus day and After. Why? Because the world hates the truth Jesus brought to this day. And they hate the work he started-Luke 10, Acts 20:20)
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:23 PM
 
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The ONLY teachers on earth who know what revelation means are the ones Jesus appointed here in these last days. They are the only teachers who have Jesus. They are easily seen by all. Jesus said the true followers will be hated. The world hated them back in Jesus day and After. Why? Because the world hates the truth Jesus brought to this day. And they hate the work he started-Luke 10, Acts 20:20)

You take a dead Jew, you have to go out and buy a huge sandoni linen cloth, and this cloth is ripped into 7 seals that you begin wrapping a dead Jew IN ORDER as each of these seals has a name and a purpose when wrapping a dead Jew, and you are witnessing what is taking place in a slow resurrection as each and every one of those linen wraps are taken, and what each of them mean according to the body part that is being released. For example, when the seal is taken off of the eyes, what has just taken place? It is when everyone says,'' Hide me from the face of he who sits upon the throne because of the fact that the seal had just been removed from the eyes off a dead Jew.


When the first seal comes off the body, the first voice/Trumpet is heard at the beginning of the feast of Trumpets, and when the first seal and first Trumpet are heard, the first bowl is poured out in spirit, and you are witnessing Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur being detailed from 3 different perspectives of the Temple as it is being explained in YOUR BODY, YOUR SOUL, AND YOUR SPIRIT.


You are shown Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur in the seals, in the trumpets and in the bowls and this beginning on Tishri one ON THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS, and from the first of Tishri, it is a count down of ten days that many will find themselves in prison for ten days.


You are sitting there witnessing exactly how Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur are playing out, and EVERY ONE KNOWS that Rosh Hashanah is called the last Trump, that Pentecost is the first Trump, and Yom Kippur is the great Trump.


EVERY ONE KNOWS that on Rosh Hashanah, your name is spoken EVERY SINGLE YEAR, and if you are keeping the Sabbaths and feasts of God, YOUR FOREHEAD will be sealed ON ROSH HASHANAH, EVERY ONE KNOWS that you are sealed on the last trump in order to protect you from the great Trump, and many will fall between these days as those ten days play out in the seals, in the trumpets and in the bowls, and it doesn't stop there, it continues showing you the struggle of being born again, and how you are to be caught up to heaven during the fall holy days which are appointed for the second coming of Christ IN YOU.


You are reading a book that is WHOLLY Jewish, and I mean that it cannot even be fully understood without the Talmud recording the necessary knowledge so that it wasn't lost because you are reading a book from one Jew to another and all it's language cloaked in Jewish idioms, and the mentality of any living Jew at that time with concepts that Christians have never even heard of.


When I tell you that Revelation is a book of the fall Holy days of Christ, I say this because I know and practice the 7 feasts of Christ, I mean that I study all it's traditions and idioms and it is my religion.


If you want to learn the book of Revelation, YOU MUST BEGIN AT THE TEMPLE OF GOD, and just by knowing Temple design, you will read of feet made of Bronze because they are standing in a brazen court, and Temple design will unlock everything, it is a book of the comings and goings of the temple you happen to be, and you are the two witnesses which are the water and the blood. It is depicting YOUR struggle where kingdom is against kingdom as your two eyes and how it is that you overcome the spirit of vanity to begin your study as a priest, and you can't begin your study and your walk unless you know the 7 days appointed for you to walk, 7 years as a covenant where you walk 42 months in the spring and however long it takes you to crossover if you ever do crossover, you are crossing over from death to life in that you are given a seed as a child to raise so as to become a new creature, and Revelation is teaching you how to be born again right there in revelation 12. It is what happens to every single person who is walking as Christ walked. Who is the child who will rule the nations with an iron fist in revelation 12?


The same child is talked about in revelation 2, the overcomer is given all the promises that the father gave Jesus, and now the overcomer would rule all the nations with an iron fist, and Revelation 12 is showing you this, showing you that after you have studied and raised a spiritually mature child, that child is caught up to God to sit in heavenly places while you are given strength to continue here, and this is the same thing the two witnesses do, they are in you, and when you are given power, vanity will no doubt come first until you realize that the fire coming out of your mouth is not of God, it is a vanity and a luxury we can't afford, it is then that we go all the way to death in our vanity after much study to become a priest, The vain false prophet realizes that there is a man of sin within him, and he needs a new head, and that is when the two witnesses within you die, but then, then you are given strength and stood up on your feet as your new born child has matured, and he is caught up to sit in heavenly places, and he is your child, your work, your house that you continue to build, but woe is he who has not raised a spiritually mature child, Children will not inherit the kingdom, if the child is not matured, God kills him.



Revelation covers 3 and a half years beginning on Tishri 1, it begins instruction for a person who has walked 42 months in the flesh, in Ephraim after God had given him power. Revelation is instructing and detailing how a person begins his second season on Rosh Hashanah.




Everything in Revelation is pointing at what is happening in the Temple on the fall holy days. When you see silence in heaven for 30 minutes, it is because there is ALWAYS silence when the incense is burning. Jesus is the alter of Incense that stands before the throne of God, and nobody can come to God lest they go through that alter of incense where you are offering your prayers to the alter, and then the alter begins to speak out of the fire of incense, and his voice is raised to God as a sweet smelling odor that is pleasing to God, and nobody should speak when the alter is speaking, they back up backwards and prostrate themselves as the incense is burning in silence for about 30 min.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:27 PM
 
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Seems to me, from the soil, so to speak, the figurative haughty ' goats ' of Matthew 25:31-33,37 are just bad seed.
Whereas the figurative humble ' sheep ' are good seed. They both are on the same soil (earth) but grow differently.
The humble good-seed ' sheep ' do good to Jesus' spiritual brothers of Matthew 25:40.
Whereas the haughty bad-seed ' goats ' when they hear about the good news of God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44 do Not do good toward Jesus' spiritual brothers of Matthew 25:40.
No rapture mentioned for those humble/meek ' sheep ' but rather they can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth right through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
They can be here alive on Earth starting with calendar Day One when Jesus begins his 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth for a thousand years when even enemy death will be No more on Earth as per Isaiah 25:8; 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.

Well, you know it says it will be as it was in the days of Noah. In Noah's day only the wicked were removed from the earth. The righteous were safely RAISED UP in the ARK (Christ IS the new Ark of the Covenant), saved from the destruction of the death to the flesh. Peace

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