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Okay. So I already gave you my valid answer: Yes, they'll go to Heaven.
Many other Christians however state with conviction that the children of evil people were tarnished by their evil parents, and so must burn in hell, being unfit for heaven.
Many other Christians however state with conviction that the children of evil people were tarnished by their evil parents, and so must burn in hell, being unfit for heaven.
What a lovely religion.
At least they're all working from the same God-inspired writings from the God-inspired scribes, editors, Church High Mucky-Mucks, translators et al throughout the centuries.
Which is why all the various 33,000+ denominations get along together so famously - an inspiration to non-believers everywhere!
Anyone.. fetus, infant, or whomever... that does not have the Holy Spirit does not go to heaven.
Why did I modify my answer? John the Baptist.
What does he have to do with it? He was in the womb when Mary visited and he lept in the womb. Both he and his mother were filled with the Holy Spirit (Luke 1).
God is the giver of the Holy Spirit. He has the power to work within any living human.
Anyone.. fetus, infant, or whomever... that does not have the Holy Spirit does not go to heaven.
Why did I modify my answer? John the Baptist.
What does he have to do with it? He was in the womb when Mary visited and he lept in the womb. Both he and his mother were filled with the Holy Spirit (Luke 1).
God is the giver of the Holy Spirit. He has the power to work within any living human.
Thank you for continuing to step up to the plate and bravely demonstrating the wrongness of your particular brand of Christianity.
The difference is I realize that my view is just a view - even though I try to base it on the Bible. I have nothing to do with the outcome.
Your beliefs, or how you grew up, or how express your incredulity at what I think, have nothing to do with the outcome as well. So, whatever...
Well, you're right about that, and I appreciate the fact that you are willing to acknowledge (as I am) that we're all just expressing our personal beliefs and opinions. None of us can say for sure how things are going to pan out. That's up to God.
Let me modify my answer. Anyone.. fetus, infant, or whomever... that does not have the Holy Spirit does not go to heaven.
Why did I modify my answer? John the Baptist.
What does he have to do with it? He was in the womb when Mary visited and he lept in the womb. Both he and his mother were filled with the Holy Spirit (Luke 1).
God is the giver of the Holy Spirit. He has the power to work within any living human.
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Thank you for continuing to step up to the plate and bravely demonstrating the wrongness of your particular brand of Christianity.
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Wow. It's times like this that I am so, so, so grateful that I was raised with the beliefs I was.
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The difference is I realize that my view is just a view - even though I try to base it on the Bible. I have nothing to do with the outcome.
Your beliefs, or how you grew up, or how express your incredulity at what I think, have nothing to do with the outcome as well. So, whatever...
True. What is troubling is the picture that your views paint of the character of the God you claim to worship. That you are not troubled by it is puzzling.
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True. What is troubling is the picture that your views paint of the character of the God you claim to worshiip. That you are not troubled by it is puzzling.
If you truly know God, and understand His character, there is no sense in being troubled.
True. What is troubling is the picture that your views paint of the character of the God you claim to worship. That you are not troubled by it is puzzling.
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If you truly know God, and understand His character, there is no sense in being troubled.
It is puzzling to you because you don't know Him.
Since everyone who loves knows God and is "born of God," I will ignore your ignorant assertion that I do not know God. Jesus was unambiguous in describing and demonstrating the character and true nature of God as agape love. So anything that you believe about God from the Bible that is inconsistent with agape love can NOT be from God or Jesus. Why do you believe and accept them???
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