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Old 01-05-2014, 09:15 PM
 
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Is there a conflict between preachers and educated people, especially in the science fields, in the Bible Belt? I know that there's a conflict between science and religion in the Bible Belt , and I want to know if many preachers of the region against education. Also, is this traditional in the Bible Belt?
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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Is there a conflict between preachers and educated people, especially in the science fields, in the Bible Belt? I know that there's a conflict between science and religion in the Bible Belt , and I want to know if many preachers of the region against education. Also, is this traditional in the Bible Belt?
Some of the "preachers" I know in the Bible Belt are highly educated, probably even more than the average person in their congregation.

There is not as much of a conflict between science and religion as you might think either.

Fundamentalist Christians make enough noise to seem like there is sometimes, but mainstream Christians make up the majority and they see no "conflict"
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:33 PM
 
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Some of the "preachers" I know in the Bible Belt are highly educated, probably even more than the average person in their congregation.

There is not as much of a conflict between science and religion as you might think either.

Fundamentalist Christians make enough noise to seem like there is sometimes, but mainstream Christians make up the majority and they see no "conflict"
Some people believe that preachers do not need a formal education. In fact some preachers are little children.
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:37 PM
 
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Some people believe that preachers do not need a formal education. In fact some preachers are little children.
Ah, you mean our fundamentalist brothers.

Well, they are of course free to believe and practice what they wish, however their conscience leads them.

But the majority, the mainstream Christians, prefer to learn and be led by pastors who have earned a minimum of a divinity degree from a respected institution of higher learning.
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:06 AM
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Ah, you mean our fundamentalist brothers.

Well, they are of course free to believe and practice what they wish, however their conscience leads them.

But the majority, the mainstream Christians, prefer to learn and be led by pastors who have earned a minimum of a divinity degree from a respected institution of higher learning.
That how it is, learned from a high institution. Jesus choose fishermen and tax collectors. Why? Because God chooses that what is nothing to the world. Church leaders should be led by the Holy Spirit, but main Christianity does not know Him nor is led by Him. The Holy Spirit is the Vicar of Christ in this present dispensation, not the Pope. A church leader which has not Christ as head, is a church without head. And if the foundation is not there, it is build on sand, when the storm and rain comes, it will not stand. Any work will go through the fire and what is hey and straw and wood will burn, they that seem to be poor will be rich, the kings of this world will not be kings in the coming world, the last will be the first, the beggars and homeless and the poor widow (Lazarus) will be first and the rich will be last in the kingdom of God.
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:56 AM
 
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Most preachers today are not called into the ministry by God.
They are appointed by groups of men, or a religious organization..

1Cor:1:26: For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many
wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

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Old 01-07-2014, 05:23 AM
 
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Most preachers today are not called into the ministry by God.
They are appointed by groups of men, or a religious organization..

1Cor:1:26: For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many
wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

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That is an anecdotal observation, at best. What man can see into anothers heart? Not all are called to preach... some are called to be pastors, doctors, lawyers, plumbers, carpenters etc.

To often we have a myopic view of what a calling is.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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That is an anecdotal observation, at best. What man can see into anothers heart? Not all are called to preach... some are called to be pastors, doctors, lawyers, plumbers, carpenters etc.

To often we have a myopic view of what a calling is.
Actually all Christians are called to preach. Then they do things like be a doctor, lawyer, carpenter etc to support themselves. All are called to work, so none are a special calling at all. Some just like to think/claim so.

KJV Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

KJV Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

KJV 1 Thessalonians 4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

KJV 1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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Actually all Christians are called to preach. Then they do things like be a doctor, lawyer, carpenter etc to support themselves. All are called to work, so none are a special calling at all. Some just like to think/claim so.

KJV Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

KJV Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

KJV 1 Thessalonians 4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

KJV 1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
You've just affirmed my point unknowingly.

Who says it has to be from the pulpit? or in a small group? or from a mountain top? It can be done one on one, we all do it when we are a good witnesses. It can be in a time of illness from a doctor, or when a lawyer tells a church he'll do the legal stuff gratis, or a carpenter who lovingly builds a cradle for a single mother, or the plumber who comes out in the middle of the night to fix a leak. Even if you charge for your service you can still be a witness in all things.

How powerful is the message of love when we do it without using words! Preach the gospel always and sometimes use words.
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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You've just affirmed my point unknowingly.

Who says it has to be from the pulpit? or in a small group? or from a mountain top? It can be done one on one, we all do it when we are a good witnesses. It can be in a time of illness from a doctor, or when a lawyer tells a church he'll do the legal stuff gratis, or a carpenter who lovingly builds a cradle for a single mother, or the plumber who comes out in the middle of the night to fix a leak. Even if you charge for your service you can still be a witness in all things.

How powerful is the message of love when we do it without using words! Preach the gospel always and sometimes use words.
yep, we are all called, but some don't "go" they Just let the pastor do it. In otherw ords they ignore the calling. Oh, giving a witness at opportunities you mention is good, however the command was to 'go" not just wait for an opportunity. Paul, Barnabas and others, such as Apollos, Aquila and his wife, show it also takes planning, preparation and going to others as a pre-planned effort. The Mormon's and Jehovah's Witnesses have it right there, and other churches don't want to tell their flock that it is a part of genuine worship.
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