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Old 12-06-2007, 09:42 AM
 
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They are probablly just as valid as some of the things that are included in our present bible.

I think we need to look at the bible as a guide. There are a lot of very worthwhile books that can show us a path to a better understanding of our place and purpose in this world. These new scrolls may be very meaningful. There is certainly no need to discount them simply because they weren't included ages ago.
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:56 AM
 
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Smile Dead Sea Scrolls

I read an article a very short time ago, and it talked about the Dead Sea Scrolls being writings that pertain the the life of the people at that time. Kind of like rules and what not? Not 100% sure though. This site, at the end talks a little about what I'm saying. If you disagree, by all means share your thoughts.

url=http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/deadsea.scrolls.exhibit/Today/today.html]Dead Sea Scrolls - Today
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:13 PM
 
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i believe that the scrolls that were recently found are books from the bible that were taken out like the book of Thomas and of marry and many others how do most of you feel about them if they are true then we as a people have some changing to do in our beliefs, and how we feel.
Text like the book of Judas and Mary etc. are just text that feel into disuse because they were not relevant to the church. Canonization is very specific, the first major rule is whether the text is complete. Alot of the forgotten books fall into this category. There are hundreds of pieces of text. The next part of canonization is whether the books revealed God's relationship to man. Text like the Maccabees are strictly history and are therefore left out of canonization. Those compiling the Catholic texts leave these in "just in case" but they are not canonized. Another rule that governs canonization is "are the text used as scripture". This is because canonization is not to tell us which text to use for docrine for the church, but rather which text are docrine. Canonization (the categorizing and inclusion of the ancient text to determine which is scripture and part of the bible) is closed. It does not matter how compelling the evidence for any new text.

The dead sea scrolls as mentioned mainly contain repeats found in the Bible. They do not add anything to scripture. The main thrust of this find is how little of the bible has changed if any over millenia. They prove how God is faithful in keeping his word pure over the centuries.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:56 PM
 
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The main thrust of this find is how little of the bible has changed if any over millenia. They prove how God is faithful in keeping his word pure over the centuries.
Nah, this only proves that man, even with all the evidence gathered chooses to believe whatever he wants to believe.
It is proof of free will that man can deny the evidence gathered.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:17 PM
 
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i believe that the scrolls that were recently found are books from the bible that were taken out like the book of Thomas and of marry and many others how do most of you feel about them if they are true then we as a people have some changing to do in our beliefs, and how we feel.
They are not valid, apostolic, inspired texts as the present canon is. These are gnostic texts that the heretics flooded into circulation. They are not valid, trustworthy, authoritative, and certainly not inspired! They would be best displayed as artwork nothing more.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:19 PM
 
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To be honest, the movie The Last Temptation of Christ (original novel written by Nikos Kazantzakis) had a more profound affect on me than the Dead Sea Scrolls...
You've got to be kidding right? That sick evil movie is a piece of trash and highly blasphemous!!

Sick.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:05 PM
 
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You've got to be kidding right? That sick evil movie is a piece of trash and highly blasphemous!!
As a parable the story is very strong.
I'd rather believe that story than the resurrection, simply because it makes more sense.
And as a work of art I prefer The Last Temptation of Christ over the Passion of the Christ.
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:12 PM
 
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goodness how do I feel about the scrolls and lost books of the bible?


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I got 66 books of the bible. aint taken no more!
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:17 PM
 
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Never mind, read a post incorrectly. God bless.
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:14 PM
 
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I think the key is that they weren't taken out of the Bible--they were never in. I could write "the Gospel of Travis" and claim that it was kicked out of the Bible; and my claim would be as incorrect as those made by proponents of "Lost Books". I look at them as slices of literature from early sects (mostly Gnostic) as opposed to some sort of lost Christian literature.
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